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1 posted on 11/02/2011 10:31:05 PM PDT by blam
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Fabian Socialism or Marxism?

The implementation methods differ

The end result is the same.


2 posted on 11/02/2011 10:44:15 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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Did you hear that Lindsay Lohan is going back to jail?


3 posted on 11/02/2011 10:45:39 PM PDT by PGR88 (I'm so open-minded my brains fell out)
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4 posted on 11/02/2011 10:47:04 PM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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This is what happens when SEIU and democRats are running the White House and Congress....that Trillion dollar stimulus all went to save union jobs. And the 800 Billion TARP went to save the greedy Goldman Sachs and other gambling banks.
6 posted on 11/02/2011 10:54:00 PM PDT by federal__reserve (Dr. Paul Volcker, the best Chairman of federal Reserve in 50 years.)
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There are solutions to this problem.

Unfortunately, the solutions needed require the character traits of the American people living at the time of the Revolution.


8 posted on 11/02/2011 11:08:32 PM PDT by Jonty30
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I don’t think it’s simple. Spending our way out of debt has worked before, why not again? Well maybe there are reasons, but I think they are systemic, or maybe even cosmic. That is to say, we are in new territory now. I think there are similarities to the Great Depression. I recall a speech by Hoover ( I think ) when he cited the cause as “overproduction, overproduction, and overproduction”. ( Maybe that was an earlier episode. ) Anyway, we don’t think of overproduction now, but we do have incredible efficiency, which amounts to the same thing since it devalues labor. This gets into the whole commie thing. Heilbroner in his famous “Wordly Philopsophers”, opined that Marx had given a brilliant critique of capitalism when he described what he saw as its ultimate fate, a death struggle among surviving corporations to reduce cost of production, to the detriment of the laboring class, of course. I always thought that Marx failed to account for technological expansion, which always provides new frontiers for exploitation, where capitalism excels.

Before Marx there was H. G. Wells, in The World Set Free, where he imagined cheap nuclear energy ruining heavy industry. Has the internet created the real life version of these events? Have we actually entered a new age where capitalism must falter? Who knows! Who Cares! Tune in next week. Same Fire time, same Fire station!


9 posted on 11/02/2011 11:16:20 PM PDT by dr_lew
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We have an ever expanding government consisting of union members, supporting the illegal aliens, fighting over the dwindling number of taxpayers and their dollars.

We have illegal aliens without any documented (key word; documented) income after those taxpayer dollars.

And then we have the baby boomer taxpayers that are coming up to retirement age. They will cease to be taxpayers and claim their Social Security benefits.

Something is wrong here.

Give it a little thought, nearly 50 percent of Californian kids are English learners. That means we hired twice as many teachers as we should have. Extrapolate that to everything the government does.

Twice the people that we would normally need working for 25 or 30 years and living the next 20 or 30 years at near the same income level.

It takes 30 tax payers to provide the income of a government employee when he retires.


20 posted on 11/03/2011 12:19:12 AM PDT by Haddit (Heartless)
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Actually it’s not our “leaders” you have caused jobs to be shipped overseas, it is the Unions.


21 posted on 11/03/2011 12:30:52 AM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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I volunteer where I see people on food stamps, cash assistance, all types of other assistance yet they live in nice homes and their kids have all the latest clothes and gadgets. Many with housing assistance from HUD, NY state health insurance.

I don’t get it— have they lowered the threshold to where you get all these benefits? Also, I don’t think (not sure) in NY you have to claim child support as income. I’ve seen couples that still live together but lie so the mother gets benefits— it happens a lot.

At my daughter’s school, there is free tutoring before or after school for those that get free lunch. I guess the assumption is if you qualify for free lunch, you and your family are stupid.

Also, in NY, keep having a baby every 4 years and you’re set— don’t work, collect benefits, and when the first one reaches school age, have another. Don’t have to work again.


22 posted on 11/03/2011 12:36:04 AM PDT by MacMattico
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That’s is one of the BEST one’s I’ve ever seen.

And people are wondering why, eh?


23 posted on 11/03/2011 12:51:54 AM PDT by raygun (http://bastiat.org/en/the_law DOT html)
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The title of this thread is 0bama’s 2012 political platform to run on for a second term .

,,,,,,,,, but then in all of his ultimate wisdom he told us he was SO RADICAL he may only be a one term president .


24 posted on 11/03/2011 5:31:42 AM PDT by Lionheartusa1 (-: Socialism is the equal distribution of misery :-)
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