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And So It Ends For Argentina (Lessons for America)
The Modern Survivalist ^ | Oct. 25, 2011 | Fernando Aguirre

Posted on 10/25/2011 5:44:35 AM PDT by Travis McGee

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Fernando Aguirre is the author of "The Modern Survival Manual: Surviving the Economic Collapse," which I strongly recommend.


1 posted on 10/25/2011 5:44:40 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: FerFAL308; Eaker; afnamvet; AK2KX; Ancesthntr; An Old Man; APatientMan; ApesForEvolution; ...
CW2 Ping

Posted to the CW2 list as an example of how a country slides into socialist tyranny.

Many lessons applicable to America's near future may be learned from studying the cases of Venezuela, and now Argentina.

2 posted on 10/25/2011 5:47:43 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

Sounds a lot like what has happened here.

The Wife and I have followed this guy’s tips for survivng economic downturns, Sad to see it’s almost hopeless.


3 posted on 10/25/2011 5:49:08 AM PDT by wolfcreek (Perry to Obama: Adios, MOFO!)
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To: FerFAL308; Eaker; afnamvet; AK2KX; Ancesthntr; An Old Man; APatientMan; ApesForEvolution; ...
CW2 Ping

Posted to the CW2 list as an example of how a country slides into socialist tyranny.

Many lessons applicable to America's near future may be learned from studying the cases of Venezuela, and now Argentina.

4 posted on 10/25/2011 5:49:21 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: OKSooner

Read tonite.


5 posted on 10/25/2011 5:51:41 AM PDT by OKSooner ("Get a brain, morans!!")
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To: Travis McGee

Kirchner?

Leftovers from the run-away Nazis?


6 posted on 10/25/2011 5:54:47 AM PDT by wolfcreek (Perry to Obama: Adios, MOFO!)
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To: Travis McGee

“Personality Cult”


7 posted on 10/25/2011 5:59:56 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: wolfcreek

—Sad to see it’s almost hopeless.—

If you read the book of revelation, you will find that “it” IS hopeless. But in the end there is victory.

Life is a mist.


8 posted on 10/25/2011 6:01:30 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Travis McGee

Ping for later, depressing reading.


9 posted on 10/25/2011 6:02:15 AM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: Travis McGee
Chavez, Kirchner, Obama - many similarities.
10 posted on 10/25/2011 6:03:19 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Travis McGee

And those there are, in large part, unable to stop the slide into oblivion, or unwilling to take the extreme measures required to.


11 posted on 10/25/2011 6:05:07 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: Travis McGee

As you have pointed out elsewhere, the US lacks the cultural cohesion that kept Argentina from descending into total chaos and nightmare a decade ago. As Fernando shows, at some point, even that cultural bond can be eroded and eventually eliminated in just the manner he describes. We can see that happening here.

For America, the consequences are and will be dire. Some of us can see it coming. Most of us don’t. There’s a real possibility for a ‘civilizational collapse.’ Won’t be the first. Nor will it be the last.


12 posted on 10/25/2011 6:05:12 AM PDT by Noumenon (The only 'NO' a liberal understands is the one that arrives at muzzle velocity.)
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To: Travis McGee

Ferfal sure paints a different picure than what the drive-bys are telling us. Thanks for posting!


13 posted on 10/25/2011 6:12:38 AM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: Noumenon

—There’s a real possibility for a ‘civilizational collapse.’ Won’t be the first. Nor will it be the last.—

I agree with all but the last statement. This really may be “Ezekiel 38,39” and a soon unfolding of events as described in Revelation.

We are not Argentina. If we fall, everybody does. Iceland was the canary in the cave. And since it was the first, it was able to still rely on the mere existence of the rest of western civilization to help them out of their mess (in progress). What’s coming is going to be quite global. And icky.


14 posted on 10/25/2011 6:14:30 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Travis McGee

Thanks for the ping, stay safe, brother.


15 posted on 10/25/2011 6:33:37 AM PDT by Repeal The 17th
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To: Travis McGee
You get the government you deserve. You're correct. The late Great USA had better pay close attention.
16 posted on 10/25/2011 6:36:09 AM PDT by ExSoldier ("Life without God is like an unsharpened pencil: It has no point.")
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To: Travis McGee
I visited Buenos Aires in 2007, intent on perhaps buying a home and retiring there. At the time the dollar was worth three Argentine pesos, and my money would have gone further there.

What I saw discouraged me, and I wouldn't dare, especially since Ms Kirchner has been reelected, buy anything there. I speak Spanish, as does my Austrian wife, so culturally, there was a lot to like. Pre-collapse, Argentina was, just like many latin American countries, rich and poor, no in-between. I imagine it still is.

There were some stupendous buys there as far as real-estate goes, and though the people were extremely friendly to Americans, I decided when Ms. Kirchner began to seize bank funds for various government projects, the writing was on the wall.

It's a shame. Their agriculture exports are booming, the only saving grace, and no one has lent them money, so a default will not be a large one.

The Argentinians have experienced nothing but authoritarian leadership throughout their history. Their culture has survived only because misery unites them. They have never experienced true capitalism, only crony, quasi-free markets and despotism. The fact that we Americans have experienced prosperity through free markets makes us different in important ways. For this reason I find it difficult to equate our situation with theirs, at any point in our history. Even now.

17 posted on 10/25/2011 6:45:30 AM PDT by wayoverontheright
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To: Travis McGee
Take so much from the farmers through taxes with no regard to the future, so that today the land almost grows soy exclusively. In agricultural terms this is madness but they are doing it anyway. Get rid of everything, cattle, other agro, just plant soy. Soy kills the land and ten years from now we’re looking at a food crisis, but who cares?

Huh? Unless the seed and fertilizer companies have come up with new breeds of soy, I had always understood that soybeans revitalized the soil because it is a legume that can take nitrogen from the air. Essentially after planting corn for a couple of years you rotate to soybeans to give the land a year off.

18 posted on 10/25/2011 6:54:03 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Compare "Delay is preferable to error" - Thomas Jefferson // "Pass this bill now!" - Barack Obama)
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Soy kills the land and ten years from now we’re looking at a food crisis,

If he's talking about high-intensity chemical farming of soybeans, he's right, but it's the method, not the plant, that is the problem. No-till farming with soybeans replaces nitrogen and leaves the root masses and much of the green matter for decomposition. Farmers in Latin America had grown milpas of corn, beans, and squash (together) for over a thousand years with relatively little soil depletion.

19 posted on 10/25/2011 6:55:03 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (At least I have the decency to kill my food before I eat it.)
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To: Travis McGee

Thanks for posting this. I believe many people still think that we would be immune from such as this happening here. In particular if we elect a ‘conservative’ president in 2012. However much is already in place. The wheels are in motion and have been for a long time conservative president or not. It will take great united energy to battle the forces at work. To preserve our culture, heritage and nation. Not the PC crap that we constantly see from the left and also from many on the right. I agree with the poster above that our social cohesion is weakening to the point of there being little if any at all left at least in the national sense. We certainly have a hard time uniting on much even on the so called right side of the aisle. Our whole societal structure is under attack and by and large under control of Marxist/liberal doctrine and I’m not sure we have the backbone anymore to fight it. We must unite on our forefathers, our common culture, heritage and blood. Without it we are just a shell.


20 posted on 10/25/2011 6:55:43 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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