Posted on 10/07/2011 8:43:16 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
Today, the Susan B. Anthony list and National Organization for marriage released a joint scorecard for the Republican candidates for President at the annual Values Voters Summit. Ordinarily, a release like this carries few surprises, and in this election cycle so dominated by fiscal issues, a scorecard devoted to gay marriage and abortion is unlikely to carry the same weight it would have in the past. However, what may surprise those perusing the score card this time around is the fact that one candidate the one widely interpreted as the most conservative in the race actually falls to the Left of most of his peers on both issues.
That candidate is Herman Cain. According to the scorecard, Cain, who many have interpreted as a Huckabee-style populist outsider, looks more like Ross Perot when social issues are discussed. On abortion, Cain is one of only two candidates who have refused to sign the Susan B. Anthonys pro-Life pledge, a pledge which asks candidates to commit to key pro-Life goals if elected to the Presidency in 2012. The other candidate who has refused to sign is (unsurprisingly) former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney, whose record on abortion is famously confused. However, Cain still ends up to the Right of Romney in the aggregate on the issue, given that Romney is the only candidate to refuse to make it a priority to appoint pro-Life appointees to Executive Branch offices if elected.
It is on gay marriage where Cain takes more liberties. In fact, on gay marriage, he appears indistinguishable from Libertarian Rep. Ron Paul. Cain has refused to sign the Pro-Marriage Pledge, refused to support the so-called Federal Marriage Amendment, and has Unknown stances on every other issue the National Organization for Marriage (NOM) scores, other than defense of the Defense of Marriage Act, which every GOP candidate is on record supporting. In contrast, candidates like Michele Bachmann, Rick Perry and even Mitt Romney have openly said Yes to every question asked by NOM.
Given that Cain is perceived as the conservative standard bearer who has eclipsed more socially conventional candidates like Rick Perry, this raises an important question: Is Cain actually conservative enough for his support base, or are social issues actually in their twilight years?
“Frum Forum”, whatever that is, can take its mud and sling it elsewhere.
Cain's real positions here
Sour grapes Wifey, you see your boy Rick in a tailspin, you see Cain opening up a 20 point lead on Romney, so you start doing the MSM’s job for them and looking for ways to trash Cain.
That’s pretty transparent.
Agreed!
Is it true?
If it is, it isn’t mud slinging.
It’s truth telling.
He’s conservative enough for me.
This is the problem with some conservatives, they want their government to reflect their social (religous) views more than they want a good executice leading the country.
Boy you really are a Perry operative aren’t you? I hope they pay you enough.
Are there lies in this article?
If there are, please tell the thread.
??? Not on what you linked to!
Perry=Bachman=Romney=Santorum on what you posted.
I suspect I won't be alone.
At least your give you honest opinion.
“However, Cain still ends up to the Right of Romney in the aggregate on the issue, “
Right now it looks like we have Cain or Romney. Cain is more conservative than Mitts.
So who are you backing?
Perry? I like his tand on most issues but his unbelievabley poor showing in the last debate leads me to think Obama will rip him apart in any debates - that’s BAD.
Even Romney and Cain debate much better.
And given Cain’s close affiliation with the Baptist Church, I find it hard to believe he is pro-abortion
A successful CEO seems like a man with good executive experience to me.
Cain isn’t perfect but I don’t expect him to be.
National Right to Life Conference Speech
http://hermancainissues.com/speeches/right-to-life-conference-speech-62411/
African American Businessman Spends 1M to Urge Blacks to Vote Pro-Life (2006)
http://www.lifenews.com/2006/09/13/nat-2583/
Herman Cain Reaffirms Commitment to Pro-Life Principles
http://secure.campaigner.com/Campaigner/Public/t.show?LVMF—8Oz3-WCSgU7
And Alveda King affirmed on Facebook that she knew and worked with Cain on Pro-life issues over the years and testifies that he is Prolife
Herman Cain: Defund Racist Planned Parenthood Abortion Biz
http://www.lifenews.com/2011/01/18/herman-cain-defund-racist-planned-parenthood-abortion-biz/
Herman Cain: Planned Parenthood Should Be Called ‘Planned Genocide’
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/03/herman-cain-planned-parenthood-should-be-called-planned-genocide.php
He does NOT agree with the SB's call for FEDERAL legislation on these issues since it would violate the 10th Amendment
See unlike your Candidate Perry who talks a lot about the 10th Amendment then rushes out to sign anything he thinks will win him votes, Cain actually believes in the separation of power between the Federal Government and the States and refuses to make promises that violate his principals.
What you see, then, is that where Perry acted like a politician and made a pledge he cannot necessarily keep, Cain acted honestly, and expressed his whole-hearted endorsement of the Pain-capable Unborn Child Act, but noted that he cannot know that he would have the opportunity to enact it.
I don’t know where these people got their information but first off, Cain SUPPORTS the DOMA and even went on to say that Obama’s refusal to defend DOMA is treasonous:
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/cain-obamas-refusal-defend-doma-bordering-treason
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Cain is 100% Prolife. The SBA pledge was discussed on here a long time ago. He did not sign it because the wording in it said that a President would advance legislation. He said he would support and sign legislation but it is Congress’s job to “advance” legislation and that is not Constitutional. He asked them to change the word “advance” to “support” and they would NOT.
More on Cain’s ProLife stance:
National Right to Life Conference Speech
http://hermancainissues.com/speeches/right-to-life-conference-speech-62411/
African American Businessman Spends 1M to Urge Blacks to Vote Pro-Life (2006)
http://www.lifenews.com/2006/09/13/nat-2583/
Herman Cain Reaffirms Commitment to Pro-Life Principles
http://secure.campaigner.com/Campaigner/Public/t.show?LVMF—8Oz3-WCSgU7
And Alveda King affirmed on Facebook that she knew and worked with Cain on Pro-life issues over the years and testifies that he is Prolife
Herman Cain: Defund Racist Planned Parenthood Abortion Biz
http://www.lifenews.com/2011/01/18/herman-cain-defund-racist-planned-parenthood-abortion-biz/
Herman Cain: Planned Parenthood Should Be Called ‘Planned Genocide’
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/03/herman-cain-planned-parenthood-should-be-called-planned-genocide.php
But who’s truth are you telling?
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