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To: Oztrich Boy

Would Cain beat Hillary?

NOW THAT is a fascinating question. It presupposes, of course, that the Democrats would be willing to primary against Obama. The thought of this has indeed run through the ranks of liberals. The question is do they have the courage to actually clip Obama or, like Jesse Jackson, will they only mutter the thought under their breath? Having considered this myself, I believe a primary run against Obama would fracture the Democrat's party in a devastating way. They would do irreparable harm in their relationship with their base.

Whereas I do think Cain would beat Hillary in both style and substance, I recognize that doesn't mean a victory in popularity -- and Hillary Clinton is quite popular. But when you factor in the loss of popularity due to a primary run against Obama, Hillary defeats herself. I don't think it would even be close. If the Democrats abandon Obama, the minority vote alone will swing 30 points Cain's way overnight. Will they risk fracturing the party with such a high probability of loss regardless? I honestly do not think so. I find their leadership at times despicable, but not unintelligent. This is just opinion, of course.


101 posted on 10/04/2011 8:17:32 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: so_real

It is my belief, and has been for quite a while, that Hillary will be the candidate, but not necessarily after a primary battle.

Obama may step aside ‘for the good of the party’ and HRC comes to the rescue! As SoS HRC played no part in forcing Obamacare down our throats, she didn’t vote for any stimulus bills, she was not involved in any debt ceiling debates, she cannot be linked to Obama’s DOJ, etc. Her hands are clean!

And she presents an opportunity for the same gullible idiots who couldn’t pass up a chance to be a part of history by voting for the first black president — even if he was a socialist — to once again be a part of history by voting for the first woman president — even if she’s a socialist!

There are some that speculate that this was that plan all along: that HRC stepped aside in 2008, that BO would appoint her SoS (keeping her away from the fallout), that with the help of Blue Dog Dems elected on his coattails BO would force through whatever he could with no concern about the damage, and then he would fall on his sword opening the way for HRC to rescue the party and create another opportunity for an ‘historical’ election.

But a GOP ticket with Palin at the top spoils their party! It guarantees an historical election without requiring people to vote for HRC to achieve it. They have spent three years trying to destroy Sarah. I’ve seen nothing like it in my lifetime. IMO it’s not just that they fear Sarah’s candidacy for who she is and what she represents, it’s also that her candidacy foils their HRC as first female president campaign!


108 posted on 10/04/2011 11:45:54 PM PDT by highway61
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To: so_real

“It presupposes, of course, that the Democrats would be willing to primary against Obama.”

If Soros and Ayers decide to dump Obama, primary elections are not the way they will do it.


117 posted on 10/05/2011 3:17:29 PM PDT by Jim Noble (To live peacefully with credit-based consumption and fiat money, men would have to be angels.)
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