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To: Seizethecarp

The big question is: was the passport issued to Stanley Ann in July 1965 which she used to travel to Indonesia her first passport or was it a renewal of an earlier passport? If it was a renewal, then maybe she DID hold a passport at the time people claim she went to Kenya (or Canada?) to birth little Barky.

The government claims the dog ate all her passport records from 1965 and before.

But it is worth noting that the passport issued in July 1965 was NOT issued in the name she was then using, Stanley Ann Soetoro.

We know this because a later amendment showed her amending her passport to insert her married name Stanley Ann Soetoro.

Therefore, one could reasonably conclude that this passport was a renewal and not a first passport, because otherwise, if it was her first passport, it should have been issued in the name she was then using after her second marriage, Stanley Ann Soetoro.


5 posted on 09/28/2011 7:08:36 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss (The pain from Cain falls mainly on Hussein (but some on Romney and Perry!))
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To: Meet the New Boss

Passport

(or Canada?)

Doubt a passport was needed to enter Canada then.

That travel would have been a lot more logical as Stanley Ann had an Aunt who lived for a time in Canada. And live on the border of Canada at the time Obozo was said to have been born.


8 posted on 09/28/2011 7:49:36 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Meet the New Boss
"The big question is: was the passport issued to Stanley Ann in July 1965 which she used to travel to Indonesia her first passport or was it a renewal of an earlier passport? If it was a renewal, then maybe she DID hold a passport at the time people claim she went to Kenya (or Canada?) to birth little Barky."

If this is a true record and not some faked hooey from our government, the 1965 passport application is a RENEWAL. She renewed her passports every 5 years so the previous one should have been summer of 1960. It's conceivable she got a passport after graduating from high school so the question is where did she travel on it?

22 posted on 09/29/2011 7:26:28 AM PDT by bgill (There, happy now?)
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To: Meet the New Boss

We know that the 1965 passport was not a renewal of an earlier passport. The regulations at the time stated that a passport could only be renewed once. Since a renewal application was dated in 1968 (based on FOIA documents), the 1965 passport it renewed was an initial issue.

That does not preclude her having an earlier passport. Meet the New Boss hits the nail on the head, though. The big question is whether Stanley Ann Dunham had a passport in 1961, and that question remains unanswered, although I think we will know the answer eventually.

While I do suspect misconduct on the part of the State Department insofar as they are dragging their feet, I do not believe that they made any false statements in the responses them sent me.


26 posted on 09/29/2011 10:21:17 AM PDT by Doc Conspiracy (Fishing for gold coins in a bucket of mud)
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To: Meet the New Boss; LucyT
...But it is worth noting that the passport issued in July 1965 was NOT issued in the name she was then using, Stanley Ann Soetoro...

MARRIAGE DATE: March 15, 1965

MARRIAGE DATE: March 5, 1964

APPLICATION FOR RENEWAL OF Passport issued JULY 19, 1965.

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TWO previous marriage dates, she's grown five inches taller, the divorce from the kenyan was finalized March 20, 1964.

Lolo Soetoro also gives a March 1964 marriage date, although he couldn't recall on what DAY they married...

Seems obvious why prior passport data' have been destroyed' doesn't it? What might prior data have revealed?

40 posted on 09/29/2011 2:31:18 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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BINGO! SO where did she travel to before and when?


106 posted on 01/18/2012 7:53:00 AM PST by mojitojoe (SCOTUS.... think about that when you decide to sit home and pout because your candidate didn't win)
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