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Rick Perry’s Political Judo
RedState.com ^ | 09-12-2011 | sayoung80913

Posted on 09/12/2011 8:42:02 PM PDT by grey_whiskers

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To: bwc2221
Your peddling a Leftico propaganda piece tonight too !
Leftico that employees former Soros operatives and has a sea of dedicated Obama journOlists.

Still peddling the Malkin BS too.

Your a dedicated Perry hater !

121 posted on 09/12/2011 11:00:50 PM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !)
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To: bwc2221

Thank you for providing the links. All I ask is that documentation be provided when accusations are being made. Has nothing to do with the messenger.


122 posted on 09/12/2011 11:01:55 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Palin/Perry, Perry/Palin, Palin or Perry, Perry or Palin 2012....Any Questions?)
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To: Springfield Reformer
Most of these concerned Perry haters post lies and half truths and its not normal discourse.

They have no intention of supporting Perry if he wins.
I hope you are right.

123 posted on 09/12/2011 11:05:39 PM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
4-6 months ago Donald Trump led in the polls, 4 years ago Rudy Giuliani led in the polls. What does that tell us?

It tells us that if we're not careful we're going to end up with another McCain (i.e. Romney), and then another 4 years of Obama.

124 posted on 09/12/2011 11:34:38 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: sklar
People aren't looking at Perry as a LEADER, they're just calculating who could maybe beat Obama. Sarah said it right: the question is not just to replace Obama, (that's a given) but what to replace him with.

Yep. As Rush has often pointed out, it's a mistake to play not to lose. Better to play to WIN.

I really wish more people with the "anybody but _____" (insert name of Democrat nightmare du jour) would realize that when they approach selecting candidates that way, they are leaving the GOP wide open to manipulation by the Democrats.

When we start assessing candidates based on OUR terms, instead of the Democrats' terms, that's when we will start playing to win and deflect manipulation.

125 posted on 09/12/2011 11:35:14 PM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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To: so_real
I sense a certain parallel there. I don't think that helps him -- especially as Bush started the "too big to fail" bailouts.

That's because they are both from Texas, but Bush (and ROVE) hate Perry with a passion. They backed Kay Baily Hutchenson in Perry's last campaign for governor.

126 posted on 09/12/2011 11:50:02 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: Yossarian; All
Perry shed some light on the background of the Gardasil order in the prior debate.

He claimed there had been a bill passed aimed at cancers, cervical cancer in particular. I went looking and found that was absolutely true.

In 2005, HB 2475 said, "This bill requires the Department of State Health Services to develop a strategic plan to eliminate mortality from cervical cancer by the year 2015…" "The strategic plan must be developed and delivered to the governor and legislature no later than December 31, 2006."

Was the plan delivered to Perry? Yes it was.

A 47 page report (Acrobat PDF) called "Texas Cervical Cancer Strategic Plan," December 2006, by Texas Department of State Health Services in collaboration with The Texas Cancer Council was delivered.

Page 8, "Executive summary" Armed with this new HPV vaccine, we can achieve the moment when we know our goal — eliminating cervical cancer death and suffering — is in reach.

Page 20, "Access to Care" - "Women must have access to cervical cancer screening to eliminate cervical cancer in Texas. The National Cancer Institute reports that groups of women with high cervical cancer mortality:...

… "Widespread vaccination is a key to reducing cervical cancer incidence in Texas"

He acted in the furtherance of the legislature's public health goals by ensuring the widest dissemination of and coverage for the vaccine.

The three shots included in Gardasil cost $360 (it's less today) which is not cheap for "low income" individuals most in need of it. Opt-out vaccines are covered by insurance, Medicaid and other programs. Opt-in vaccines not.

It's hard to look at that legislative priority going back years, that resulting report, the relative insignificance of the Merck donation to his war chest and not conclude this was an honest error of procedure, rather than corrupt intent.

It's long been a firestorm but from many different angles. There's the anti-vax types who can never be satisfied. There's those feeling the vaccine is somehow a moral judgement on their child's virtue. There's the thought the Texas governorship is a "weak" office and the legislature the strong so his action offended the balance of gov't in Texas. And there's the idea this is a super secret cabal to funnel tax dollars to Merck. It's hard for that last one to stick when the legislature had set the priorities it set and its report concluded what it concluded.

127 posted on 09/13/2011 12:42:55 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Will racist demagogue Andre Carson be censured by the House?)
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To: grey_whiskers
There are a number of Perry operatives using this technique on FR, if their posts are any indication.

Enough with the baseless innuendo. That might be good for Ed Rollins' run campaigns but I say put up or shut-up. Name names.

128 posted on 09/13/2011 12:45:03 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Will racist demagogue Andre Carson be censured by the House?)
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To: BuddhaBrown
Sarah VERY FIRMLY took Bachmann’s side over Perry’s on the Gardasil issue right after the debate.

Palin is misinformed or just plain wrong. It happens.

Bachmann embarrassed herself by lying. She repeatedly claimed there was "no choice" in the matter of getting the vaccine. That's false on its face. She knows it and lied anyway.

We get enough of that out of Democrats. We don't need it from a supposedly titanium-spined Tea Party candidate.

129 posted on 09/13/2011 12:51:07 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Will racist demagogue Andre Carson be censured by the House?)
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To: newzjunkey

“Palin is misinformed or just plain wrong. It happens.”

Sacrilege!

(Actually, she’s been wrong a number of times. Like anyone else.)

Bachmann did specify that an Opt-In would have been better than an Opt-Out.

Either way, both fine ladies are right. And RickS was VERY spot on to remind people exactly why we have vaccinations in schools. To prevent school-based transmissions. Unless Texas schools now mandate underage sex in the classroom, then HPV does NOT meet the standard for such intrusion.


130 posted on 09/13/2011 1:06:02 AM PDT by BuddhaBrown (Path to enlightenment: Four right turns, then go straight until you see the Light!)
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To: McGavin999

That's because they are both from Texas

Sure ... and that's why they both remind me so much of Ron Paul ??? No, it has nothing to do with their southern accents and everything to do with their open borders, defense of big business, and desire to grow the size of government -- all the while claiming to support just the opposite.


131 posted on 09/13/2011 5:57:11 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: ncalburt; Jim Robinson
You think its normal activity to have non stop Perry hater posts and NOT a SINGLE anti- Romney or anti post about any other candidates tonight ??

nc, thanks for your measured response. I honestly wasn't expecting it, but I'll take it anyway. :)

As for your question, I understand what you're getting at, and I do have a theory. I am failrly new here myself, and I have only just recently learned that some time ago, there was a purge of heavy-duty Romney supporters, a veritable zot-fest of legendary magnitude. JimRob don't put up with no steenkin RINOs, the premise being he wants to avoid having FR get dragged eventually over to the dark side by giving RINOs unfettered access to his considerable bandwidth. Hence the eerie absence of Romney-bashers. There's just no one here with whom to have that argument.

As for why not much activity with the lesser candidates, I suspect it's also a natural phenomenon. They are now so diminished by the top three (Romney, Perry, Palin), that reality has been accepted. No one (to my knowledge) is coming on here anymore with Bachmann threads and drawing anti-Bachmann fire. That's not where the battle rages. Unless someone new emerges, like a Bush or a Christie, I think the battle lines have been drawn right where you're seeing them, simply because that's the natural expression of the FR constituency. No conspiracy need apply.

132 posted on 09/13/2011 9:10:00 AM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: DRey
Who’s paying for the illegal aliens to have nearly 1000 babies per month at Dallas Parkland Hospital?

That would be the Texas taxpayers because the federal government won’t do its job

Hey slick, how come Californians have been told repeatedly by assorted bucket mouths in Texas and elsewhere, illegal aliens in California are Californians fault, and they deserve everything they get?

What kind of twisted cockn'bull hypocrisy is this?

133 posted on 09/13/2011 9:48:35 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
What kind of twisted cockn'bull hypocrisy is this? You've never heard that from me, I assure you. Immigration and the border are constitutionally the feds jobs.
134 posted on 09/13/2011 10:04:08 PM PDT by DRey (Perry/Rubio 2012)
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To: DRey

You party groupies are the biggest GD hypocrites I’ve ever seen.


135 posted on 09/14/2011 8:51:13 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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