Posted on 09/07/2011 9:13:46 AM PDT by BearCreek
Well, it doesn't really matter that you find it perfectly acceptable. After all, you're a small-minded moron who has proven unable to even argue his way out of a wet paper sack, so there's no good reason to give a cat's scratch what you find acceptable or not.
Throughout this whole "discussion," you have whined, called me names, insulted me, and told me that I need to shut up or get lost. What you have *not* done, however, is provide any logical reasoning for your position.
Of course, being the idiot that you are, I don't expect you to be any more forthcoming with this than you already have been.
As for your financial support, (if you are not lying) you are in a tiny, tiny minority of blogpimps who support FR. The vast majority of blogpimps are merely scummy parasites who view FR as nothing but a massive hit farm.
LOL - you do realise that Free Republic itself could fall under this same description? After all, that's why JimRob got sued back in '02 - Freepers were stealing MSM content back then, basically having FR act as hitpimp by freeloading off of legitimate news sites. FR is an aggregator site too - though it had to back off the outright theft of material from those who could sue it, when basically forced to by the legal system.
Perhaps you're right. After all, we see the same thing with commenters here on FR. For instance, you're an example of the bottom of the barrel - exactly the reason why more folks here shouldn't be encouraged to post vanities and clutter up FR. Son, you are Sturgeon's Law in action.
Thank you for your support of FR ... if you're not lying.
Poisoning the well? Because you don't have a real argument, beyond your odd and ridiculous definition of what a "blog" is and isn't? Grow up.
How can you steal something that belongs to yourself? All I'm asking is that a blogger posting his own blog material post it in full. How is asking a blogger to post his own writing in full, "supporting theft?"
Sigh. We've been at this for this long, and you still have to ask this question? You really aren't capable of reading for understanding, are you?
It's not stealing when you post your own material. It IS stealing when somebody else posts your material, without your permission, in full - which is what FR's rules require. Hence, if somebody finds a good blog article that they'd like to share with their fellow FReepers - as I often do - then FR requires you to violate copyright and fair use provisions to do so. That is theft - again, that's the federal government's definition, not mine. You do realise that I and many others post up links to other articles besides those written by ourselves, don't you?
Oh wait, that would have required you to actually do research and learn what you were talking about before you started banging on the keyboard like some sort of brain-damaged baboon.
Of course, when a blogger posts their own articles in full because they are required to by FR rules, that is technically not theft, since they are choosing to accede to the FR request. However, it does strike as a little unethical to make forfeiture of copyright properties a requirement for participating - especially when the policy is so broad-brushed that it tars everybody the same.
That's why I've previously suggested some sort of means by which FReepers could evaluate and "grade" material that is posted in the blogger section, with sites and writers that receive consistently high "marks" earning "posting privileges," while sites that really are just garbage and blogpimping could drop down to a ban list - they're not even allowed period. This would make sense, since if one of the goals is to prevent blog pimps from cluttering FR with drek, then why does it really matter if they excerpt or post in full? Drek is drek - even when it's fully posted. If it's drek, why even have it here to begin with?
Plus, this sort of plan would get the holy community that Vendome is always blathering about into the game. Let hundreds or thousands of active FReepers have a hand in deciding what's worthy, and things should sort themselves out in short order, and good up-and-coming writers get the attention they do actually deserve, while the retards get stuck with the five hits a day and two comments a year that they really deserve.
And, it would probably save JimRob and the admins time and headaches, in the long run.
You are a liar
Except that it has been shown that the "lie" you think I told revolves around an obtuse and strange definition of the term "blog" that has no connexion with real life or reality.
Other than on the basis of how well-known the contributors are, there is no substantive difference between TownHall.com and Canada Free Republic or Renew America. They both do the same things. They both link to news stories, and carry original commentary written by contributors. The only difference is that Townhall.com has Michelle Malkin and Cal Thomas while the others have people who don't have as much name recognition. For all practical purposes, TownHall.com and CFP are the same type of site - calling the one a "blog aggregator" but not labelling the other the same is simply a stupid attempt at self-serving semantical legerdemain.
and an arrogant douche,
I have to admit, I probably seem that way to individuals of low intelligence and poor reasoning skills such as yourself. Sorry, I simply can't abide useless people, and you are most definitely useless.
devoid of logical thinking skills.
Oh come now, just because you don't understand an argument doesn't mean you can dismiss with a hand wave.
Again, you can't steal something you already own. It's that simple.
Of course, that's not what's at issue, but if that's easier for you to argue, then knock yourself out.
I notice you didn't include JimRob in your ping to this idiotic charge of thievery, even though it's his policy we are talking about. Now why is that, blogboy?
1) He's already heard it from me, so it's nothing new.
2) JimRob isn't the one who acts like some infantile little jobsworth "post policeman," lecturing people who excerpt and taking it upon themselves to cut and paste the full text of an article into the thread, thereby committing copyright theft, as I've seen a number of you little nitwits do.
When I post up a really great article I find on a blog somewhere and excerpt it, and some ninny such as yourself gets his little knickers in a knot and cut-and-pastes the whole article into the thread, then you have committed copyright infringement - a civilly actionable event, by the way. The main reason I don't excerpt is to avoid personal legal liability that comes with breaking the law, as much as anything else. Sorry, but I don't think FR rules overrule federal law.
FR does not force anybody to post in full, liar.
How stupid can you be? The fact that FR *does* do this is the whole reason we're even having this discussion to begin with. If FR didn't require posters to post in full when posting up articles from sites that FR arbitrarily chooses to define as "blogs," then we wouldn't even be talking about this.
If FR doesn't at least *seek* to force posters to post in full from these sites, then why do you posting police ninnies make such a big deal about excerpting from these sites?
If FR did, the blogpimps would all disappear and our argument would be moot.
Uh, as you yourself said, that is sort of the whole reason why people have to post "blog" posts IN FULL.
Are you losing track of the discussion or something?
Many of the blogpimps have threatened FR, its members and JimRob with lawsuits over their hurt feelings and dashed dreams of blogpimp super-stardom. Most have been sent packing. Why don't you give it a shot and see what happens.
As I've said before, I *technically* could have done so, since entire chapters of copyrighted material of mine have been posted up on FR in times past - not blog material, but from a book length work (would be ~400-500 pages, if arranged in a standard-sized verso-recto format) dealing with various aspects of Islamic history and theology. However, I didn't because it doesn't necessarily bother me when FReepers post it up from time to time (one doing so was, in fact, how I even *discovered* Free Republic in the first place). I suffer no pecuniary damage, and I'm just happy that the information gets out there. If and when I ever get around to finishing the current revision and collation of the bibliography, and find a dead tree publisher, the online version will simply cease to exist - nothing will be there for anyone to cut-and-paste.
I agree - while in many cases it may be a bit unfair to good writers, nevertheless, being required to post up your own articles in full is not open to lawsuits - regardless of what bloggers in the past may have thought.
The problem is, when somebody posts up *somebody else's* original work, in full, without that person's permission, then it becomes legally actionable copyright infringement - this is true, whether you like it or not. That's the whole reason why FR got sued back in 2002 - FReepers were posting up entire news stories from MSM sites, and were therefore infringing on these organisations' copyrights, going far beyond any reasonable definition of "fair use." That's why we all have to excerpt articles from any MSM sites on the excerpt list.
Now, I understand that you don't like blogs, and you think they're all crud. I got that. You're entitled to your opinion. However, the simple fact remains that in the eyes of the law, an article from a cruddy blog, an article from a good blog, and an article from a MSM outlet are all the same - they ALL fall under the same copyright protection the moment they are put up on the internet. If I post up an article from theworldssmartestandbestestconservative.blogspot.com and post it up in full, without first securing the permission of the blog's owner, then I have committed copyright infringement, and FR's posting rules have required that this infringement take place if the post is to go up.
Again - that's the federal government's definition, not mine, and it remains that way, regardless of whether you, JimRob, and anyone else likes it or not. I'm really not sure why this is so hard for you to grasp.
Yes, FR has many blogpimps who support you. They're hoping that they can eventually return to excerpting their crappy blogs in the News Forum, with its mother lode of blog-ad-clicking-fingers, to lead more unwary FReepers to their malware-laden blog sites. I hope to dash their hopes.
Right. So every FReeper who disagrees with copyright infringement and the theft of intellectual property is a "blog-pimp" who wants to put malware on peoples' computers.
You really incapable of logic, you know that?
Simple solution: Don't post from them at all.
Well Laz, you don’t have to if you don’t want to.
I wanted to apologise for coming down on you so hard a couple of days ago. I shouldn’t have, and it was out of line.
I shouldn’t have resorted to personal attacks and for that I apologize.
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