Posted on 08/29/2011 10:53:20 PM PDT by unseen1
No, he didn’t lie. But your spin on what he said is the lie.
Pssssssssssst, Mexican trucks have been crossing Texas for about 50 years...we export, trucks come get the stuff. But just for a little bonus, Mexican trucks have been running that SUPER HIGHWAY from Laredo to Canada since Eisenhower built it in 1950. Enuff said.
No, he didn’t lie about the Texas Dream Act that the majority of Texans supported and still support.
NO, Perry didn’t lie about TTC that was ordered by the US Congress in the NAFTA bill that Bill Clinton signed into law. The TTC is being built as we speak BECAUSE the US Congress ordered it to be built.
I think it doesn’t matter THAT she endorsed him. The only thing that is important is what she SAID about him. Since I believe Sarah Palin wouldn’t lie about a candidate just to get him elected, I presume that what she said about him was what she believed. And since she called him a true conservative, and she knew his entire record as Governor (unless you believe Palin would say someone was a conservative without first checking out his public record), I feel confident in saying that Palin called Perry a true conservative.
And to answer your question, assuming it was a question, she could have endorsed Debra Medina.
spin? first time I ever heard some one’s direct words called spin but you go with that.
No worship. I am a Santorum man. I just notice that the same couple names keep popping up slamming Perry with little context or in your case, any evidence. Where exactly did Perry open the borders? As a matter of fact, he confronted Obummer on a visit to TX to hand him his plan to secure the border. Where is this highway? Where is any of this? This was a speech 10 years ago to a then friendly country to the US. Would you rather he start an international incident and insult and deride Fox?
I also notice you keep dropping in NAFTA. Are you some union shop steward at the Chevy Volt plant? Leftist are always the ones going on about NAFTA being evil and not the business climate in the US.
I intend to.
the 9/11 truther? Not on your life would she endorse her.
Exactly! She also stated that people ought to “quit picking on Rick Perry” who calls it like he sees it.
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Interesting question. We are talking about the opposite sides of an endorsement relationship. Let’s assume Perry is really a lying RINO globalist open-borders flip-flopping opportunist fake conservative.
Would we then hold Palin’s endorsement of Perry AGAINST Sarah Palin? That would be the equivalent of holding Perry’s endorsement of Giuliani against Perry. But I’ve seen nobody attacking Palin for endorsing Perry.
On the other hand, if we are talking about whether Perry gains advantage from Palin’s endorsement, then the similar comparison is whether Giuliani is enhanced by Perry’s endorsement. But to figure that out, we need to see the text of the Perry endorsement.
I don’t like holding endorsements against the endorser. Endorsements are political calculations. What I would hold against an endorser is the WORDS they used to endorse.
It’s funny because I’m guessing those who point to Palin’s endorsement probably don’t otherwise think her opinion of Perry is all that important, they are just trying to pursuade Palin supporters. I figure that’s useless until Palin makes her announcement one way or another. If she decides to run, it won’t matter WHAT she said about Perry. If she decides NOT to run, I expect she’ll support someone, and THAT will be the important thing she says, not what she said in an endorsement for governor.
So for now, I use her words NOT to claim she supports Perry, but only to counter those who claim Perry is some RINO fake-conservative poser. Whatever else you think about Palin, I don’t think she would call such a person a true conservative. Even to win an election.
Careful...you may be spreading too much common sense around.
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lol. same names? I haven’t posted on FR for several weeks. So how could my name be popping up “bashing” him
Perry’s speech was given in aug of 2001. You know 2001 three weeks later 9/11 happened. You remember 9/11? It stopped the open borders crowd in its tracks.
NAFTA was a duly enacted treaty. If you read your constitution, you will see that treaties are the highest law of the land, just under the constitution itself. The TREATY called for Mexican trucks to be allowed access to our roads, provided they met safety standards.
Perry argued for following the treaty provisions, which were the law of the land. I suppose some would have liked for him to call for unlawful acts, but I don’t know why they would expect that.
I very much like Rick Santorum too! I really wish his numbers were better.
I can’t find it now, but there was an article that went into the visceral hate that Perry has for Romney. It appears he was making moves to support whoever would beat Romney. There were no good candidates to support in ‘08 anyway, so I don’t blame anyone for backing whoever. They all sucked.
Here. Found the piece. It was WSJ but you can’t get the whole thing on line so here is a summary.
http://ology.com/politics/wow-rick-perry-and-mitt-romney-might-really-hate-each-other
Building a straw man? ;-o
Yes, do listen to the video, so you can see it doesn’t say exactly what SoConPubbie keeps saying it says even after I posted the actual transcript (which I wish I had saved on my computer now, because I can’t find it in my posting history).
She makes it clear she is not READY to support any of the candidates; she clearly also says she is still evaluating the candidates, as well as some who hadn’t entered yet, to see if there are any she could support. So she did NOT rule out supporting an existing candidate.
Note the subtle twist in the wording. She said there was no one in the race she would back YET; not that there is no one in the race YET that she could back.
“Read the speech.”
I already did. I prefer to look at what he’s done....and the historical context in which he took those actions.
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it is a washingtonpost article
BTW, the reason I keep re-explaining this is that I believe there is a non-zero probability that Palin will decide not to run, and will then throw her support to someone in the race.
If you accept SoConPubbie’s interpretation of what she said, that would make Palin a liar if she doesn’t run. I don’t think she’s lying.
Nafta is one of the worse ideas I have seen in a long time.
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