Posted on 08/28/2011 10:01:59 AM PDT by The Bronze Titan
Keep on keeping on. You are fine in my book. Keeping your vanities on your personal page is a good idea. I wish I had thought of it.
We disagree on Perry but as long as we are dealing with facts that will all work itself out.
You may find it hard to believe but there are Harvard grads even in Texas. In my life I have worked for three companies that were headquartered in the Boston area, one owned and funded by a Harvard grads, all trust fund babies, and another owned and run by MIT professors. This was in the early days of computers and artificial intelligence dealing with what is called emerging technologies.
I was always amazed at how nice, intelligent people could be so wrong on politics. It seemed to be in the water. I think they just wanted to be nice people supporting compassionate things. How people so smart in technology could not see the obvious implications and results of their policies was always a mystery to me.
It is just that Texans and Harvardites are the only two groups who take their innate superiority over all others for granted under ANY circumstances.
I've even known humble people from other Ivies and from Cal Tech.
Cheers!
True, tis a curse we must bear, but we are usually kind to our inferiors. That is why I am talking to you. :-)
However, I am sure that you know that your reasoning is a hasty generalization. Your opinion of the Harvardites and Texans YOU HAVE KNOWN or known of may be true or those opinions may be shaped by your predisposition to that view. I suspect the latter. Have you ever thought that perhaps your opinion of them influences their reaction to you?
1) I didn't bother to apply to Harvard since they didn't have anyone doing what I was interested in for grad school.
Since I was offered (and turned down) grad fellowships (not TA positions) at two other Ivies, I'm not concerned. (Good thing I didn't go there, too, given what happened to Larry Summers.)
2) So if y'all are both Ha-vahd and Te-hey-ax-an, how do you handle having a simultaneous inferiority complex and superiority complex? Do alternate sneering at yourself and beating the crap out of yourself? :-)
It'd be really interesting to hear your accent.
However, I am sure that you know that your reasoning is a hasty generalization. Your opinion of the Harvardites and Texans YOU HAVE KNOWN or known of may be true or those opinions may be shaped by your predisposition to that view. I suspect the latter. Have you ever thought that perhaps your opinion of them influences their reaction to you?
No, because the ones I have known acted like that to me before I knew where they were from; and I have observed the same ones acting like that to other people.
I have some juicy examples but I cannot tell them because it would embarrass the people involved (too easy to figure out real-life identities if they were told).
Secondly, I have observed others (e.g. conservative party reptile P.J. O'Rourke, or Miami Herald columnist Dave Barrry) recounting their interactions with these people and describing much the same behaviour. True, it is a generalization, but generalizations only work in humour if they are based in fact. That's why many of the attacks on Sarah Palin fall flat.
Full Disclosure: the synapses just clicked on your FR handle. Are you by any chance a Limbaugh fan?
Cheers!
Just to ensure that you respect me even more, I am a Texas Limbaugh fan. :-)
I like O’Rourke and Barry. Have they been slamming us poor Texans?
Hope you're not in Austin, for your own sake. Not only "Keep Austin Weird" but IIRC that's in the same area as Travis County, where Tom DeLay was indicted/convicted by a Dem prosecutor.
Cheers!
No, seriously, the official theme, as far as I can tell, is" "We're Texans, and By God We're From Texas!" This place is infested with Texans, who simply cannot get over how Texan they are. Many of them are wearing cowboy hats, though I suspect they're mainly business people who have never personally interacted with a cow that was not in the form of prime rib. Source
To be fair to Dubya, though, he *did* relax by performing hard manual labor, clearing brush in Crawford, rather than golfing on Martha's Vineyard. And he trashed the editors of Mountain Bike magazine, doing 2 hour rides at 800 calories an hour (including 20 mph on the pavement on a fat tire bike!). As I wrote in a vanity mocking a liberal's complaints about Sarah Palin, contrasting her to Dubya :
When the Bush/Cheney Cowboy Show was in town, all their 'worst' tendencies could be expressed and not only was it not frowned upon, hell, it was national policy. Hunting as a pastime, and in earnest?!! Good God, didn't they know that John Kerry's (who by the way served himself in Viet Nam, and still hasn't released his SF180) line "Can I get me a huntin' license here?" was for the rubes? And George Bush, instead of going to Martha's Vineyard like a sensible person (or at least Kennebunkport like his father -- they're both Yale men and OUGHT to know better) -- instead, he went to rural TEXAS, where there are no decent restaurants, no theatre companies, no gay bars. And he cleared BRUSH, performing hard manual labor, like a mere PEASANT. Like Sarah Palin field-dressing a moose! And how cruel to shoot a moose for food. How much more humane to get your free-range, organically processed meats (if you must indulge in carnivorism) off the shelf at Whole Foods with your Arugula, the way Gaia intended.
P.J. O'Rourke has a Master's Degree from Johns Hopkins, so he picks on Harvard more.
He's too long to excerpt much, but he had a whole chapter from Holidays in Hell on visiting Harvard's 350th birthday bash. He manages to work Reagan into it:
The next morning was the great Foundation Day convocation, which President Reagan wasn't addressing. You may remember the press flap. Harvard wanted the President to give a 350th birthday speech as Franklin Roosevelt had done at the 300th and Grover Cleveland at the 250th. But Harvard didn't want to give the President an honorary degree. I guess they felt Reagan was a nice man, and, no doubt, important in his way, but not quite Harvard material. Once again, they're right. Reagan would have dozed off during "Gym Transit" even faster than I. So the President, God bless him, told Harvard to go piss up a rope. And Harvard had to go shopping for somebody else. I'm sure they were looking for a person who embodied democratic spirit, intellectual excellence and the American ethos, which is why they picked Prince Charles.
Cheers!
I went to Miss State to play baseball in the 1950s.
Have been in Texas for 45 years - Dallas, Houston, Dallas and now, yes, the Austin area. I am in Cedar Park, just to the NW of Austin. I love Texas and especially this area.
Austin is its own liberal enclave but even then there are very few of them, but they are concentrated at the University of Texas and in the media. There they have influence beyond their numbers.
Cheers!
It's true that Perry's poll numbers are not a guarantee of winning the nomination. But Palin's poll numbers have been bad for a long time, not just this very moment. She is a good woman, and the media and its accomplices have been unfair, but the public is not always wise.
Don't put me on a pro-Perry ping list, though, unless you want someone who has serious concerns about Perry's immigration record. We need to ask tough questions about all of the candidates.
That does not sound like p-marlowe to me. When did he say you can't point to Perry's record? I didn't repeat the worst part of your post. I don't think Palin herself would approve of dishonest, abrasive posts like yours.
Some pro-Perry posters are not much better, though.
I agree. What we are doing is shooting our own troops. The Palin people hate the Perry people and the Perry People hate the Palin people. We need to focus on the enemy; statists and democrats. The MSM will do the work of smearing Perry and Palin and everyone else they see as a threat. We need to stand behind them.
And they need to focus on the Statists and Obama as well. Candidates who use MSM talking points to demean the other candidates are undermining their own interests and they will not be immune from the same tactics.
You got that right, and I think you mean that applies to FR posters as well. One poster claimed that Palin never supported the TARP. I found videos on youtube in which she did support it, but I didn't post them, because of the vile anti-Palin comments that were under the videos. And anyway, Palin was McCain's VP then, and just learning her way around.
When I saw that charge that you didn't want anyone to look into Perry's record, that didn't sound right to me, but I did look at your recent posts and found no such thing!
Too often these FR Palin-Perry debates (a "debate" can be a subset of a thread) consist of tired old talking points posted back and forth, including tired old trolling techniques, and both factions have members who do this.
She also came out in favor of granting limited amnesty to illegal aliens. But that one hasn't stopped the Palin people from denigrating Perry for holding the same position.
On the issues there is little difference between Palin and Perry. The only difference right now is that Perry is running and Palin isn't.
No. That’s class warfare tactics and I don’t buy into those.
It’s not a conservative position, imo.
We have the income we do because we worked for it. We sacrificed and continue to do so. And, we are tired of paying for those who refuse to support themselves. We made our choices, good and bad. We don’t rely on the Government (other taxpayers) to foot our bills.
I may be in the minority here and that’s ok. I don’t feel bad that I was raised the way I was and have the work ethic I do or that we are raising our kids the same way.
My family would survive any income. It’s the way I was raised and hope the way we are raising our kids.
Funny how I don’t give a damn what you think, huh? I know I’m not a big govt lib just because I can see Guiliani’s strong points. In the R field we had back in 2008, he was far better than McCain, Huckabee and Romney. IMO.
Cool rebuttal. RME.
You’re probably right.
If you think that it’s conservative to allow the financial and political industries to lawlessly loot the wealth and savings of the middle class... you’ve got a surprise coming, and its coming a lot faster than you think.
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