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To: LeGrande; betty boop; metmom
You are correct, there is no transfer of information, hence no causality, as per your definition.

Causality is not limited to events involving the transfer of information content.

Likewise at post 376 you said:

The collapse of the wavefunction creates a new state. Something new is certainly created, but there is no cause, that is the point.

Creation is a causal event.

Wave function collapse is a causal event.

Evidently you have presumed that a causal event requires an intelligent agent. It does not.

394 posted on 08/27/2011 9:12:27 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl; betty boop; metmom
Creation is a causal event.

Wave function collapse is a causal event.

What is the cause if I may ask?

Evidently you have presumed that a causal event requires an intelligent agent. It does not.

Where did that come from? There is no 'cause' and 'effect'.

406 posted on 08/28/2011 8:03:56 AM PDT by LeGrande ("life's tough; it's tougher if you're stupid." John Wayne)
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