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To: Matchett-PI

They are completely orthogonal. Your desire for a spiritual approach to education has no place in science courses of any sort. Science is about method, and this method is increasingly and predominantly guiding policy because it *works*.

The real problem here is not “scientism”, but obscurantism. As Orwell said: IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH; and this is how I view political-religious folks. Strong because they are ultimately embracing their very ignorance.

As Haldane pointed out: The moment someone shows me a rabbit fossil from the precambrian, I will cease to believe in evolution. This is how it is: Nothing should be sacred in the pursuit of natural truth.


27 posted on 08/17/2011 10:52:40 AM PDT by belzu2010
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To: belzu2010
"Your desire for a spiritual approach to education has no place in science courses of any sort"

"My desire"????? You're not a very careful reader. Better read my posts in this thread again... OR read them for the first time. Sheesh!

28 posted on 08/17/2011 11:39:34 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (Obamageddon, Barackalypse Now! Bam is "Debt Man Walking" in 2012 - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: belzu2010; Matchett-PI; GodGunsGuts; Fichori; tpanther; Gordon Greene; Ethan Clive Osgoode; ...
As Haldane pointed out: The moment someone shows me a rabbit fossil from the precambrian, I will cease to believe in evolution. This is how it is: Nothing should be sacred in the pursuit of natural truth.

Nah, the headlines would simply read *Mammal evolution occurred earlier that previously thought* and the rabbit would be reclassified as a *living fossil*.

Nothing will ever disprove evolution to an evolutionist because they don't want it to be disproved. They'd find SOME way to explain it away.

45 posted on 08/19/2011 3:05:57 PM PDT by metmom (Be the kind of woman that when you wake in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, she's UP !!")
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To: belzu2010
"As Haldane pointed out: The moment someone shows me a rabbit fossil from the precambrian, I will cease to believe in evolution. This is how it is: Nothing should be sacred in the pursuit of natural truth."

Never heard of fossil reworking? Out-of-order fossils are found all the time but are explained-away as being reworked. 'Older' fossils into 'younger' beds as well as 'younger' fossils into 'older' beds.

The whole fossil 'record' is simply a mental construct. The precambrian doesn't exist except in people's minds.

66 posted on 08/19/2011 4:20:53 PM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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