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To: Lorianne; lormand; Allegra; SaraJohnson; Tax-chick; fieldmarshaldj
You are missing the point. While Ron Paul sees the 10th Amendment as banning federal prohibitions of abortion or sexual perversion posing as marriage while posing for holy pictures as a pro-lifer and pro-family guy (sucker bait for pro-lifers and pro-family folks), SCOTUS and the court system disagree with him or ignore his claim and keep cramming social revolution, abortion, perversion posing as marriage, and a cornucopia of other evils down our throats.

Unlike Ron Paul, I really DO want to end abortion and these other perversions posing as marriage. You deal with the system you have. You cannot tie both of our hands and both of our feet behind our backs while arming the social revolutionaries with the political/SCOTUS equivalent of nukes.

On the 10th, Paulie wants us restrained by it and our enemies empowered by it. He is blatantly dishonest as usual to describe his delusions in such a way as to call himself pro-life. I want a centralized government on foreign policy, trade, military policy and a bunch of other things. So did the Founders. Also bear in mind that the Founders were remarkable men but they did not have a crystal ball to see the specific circumstances of our time. I doubt that their wildest imaginations would have foreseen legalized abortion at all much less on demand or "marriage" of Adam and Bruce or genuflecting before Al Qaeda for that matter and they certainly did not write a constitution to guarantee as legal rights such evil insanity. (There I go again!!! I am SOOOOO judgmental! You betcha!)

Ron Paul is an airhead who appeals to the "I gotta be me" crowd and he is a dishonest airhead or the least mentally capable article in shoe leather in the entire American gummint.

Maybe we SHOULD elect someone to change the direction of gummint and stop the social revolution but it is a lead pipe cinch that the someone is not the Galveston porkmeister, selective 10th Amendment social revolutionary poseur and surrendermonkey.

You either believe in the obvious truth or you don't but YOU can't have it both ways. I am a recovering attorney. I represented without fee 1100 people arrested (most on felony charges) for sitting in at abortion mills, desterilizing the instruments, pouring raw eggs into the suction machines. About 30 were convicted, mostly of the non-criminal equivalent of parking tickets (infractions) and none of felonies. I absolutely resent Ron Paul's rank dishonesty on the pro-life issue. I don't care about his personal opinions. I care about his ACTIONS as a public official. He wants to play philosopher king while another 50 million babies are slaughtered and counting. He is a rank phony. Paul hides behind the 10th Amendment and SCOTUS in Roe vs. Wade hid behind the 9th Amendment. Those two amendments have generally been ignored for over 200 years except to facilitate baby-killing and perversion. NO THANKS!

If the little twerp REALLY wants to defend the 10th Amendment consistently, he would have to advocate the complete abolition of Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and about 95% of the federal government's programs. However nice an idea that might seem to many conservatives as to many fedgov programs, if paleoPaulie were candid and honest, the voting public would stomp his sorry backside into the dustbin of history. Paul's sophomoric nonsense may just thrill the college kiddies who support him since he seems to promise legal drugs, sex however they please with whomever or whatever they please in whatever numbers, abortion to keep their life options open without forgoing sex until marriage, no personal responsibility just a cornucopia of "rights" subsidized by others and no more of those just icky wars that make their empty little heads hurt and no more bills for same.

For nearly fifty years, I have been a movement conservative. I have never seen such a disgrace as Ron Paul sullying the name of the movement by calling himself conservative. He is a libertarian and not a conservative and he makes it up as he goes along. I was a Libertarian Party State officer as a college kid back before we invented the wheel but then I grew up. He is 76 and by 2016 he will be eighty. He has never grown up. Maybe he can be packed off to Sunnyvale Farm in a straitjacket by 2016. You well know that he will NEVER be POTUS.

200 posted on 08/14/2011 11:14:15 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club: Burn 'em Bright!!!)
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To: BlackElk

Amen...I could not have said it better re Ron Paul. Keep it up. Libertarians are would be anarchists.


202 posted on 08/14/2011 11:24:40 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a tea party descendant - steeped in the Constitutional legacy handed down by the Founders)
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To: BlackElk

I don’t support Ron Paul for president - never! He’s lost it. :)


226 posted on 08/16/2011 7:01:16 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: BlackElk; Lorianne; lormand; Allegra; SaraJohnson; Tax-chick; fieldmarshaldj

>>>BlackElk wrote: While Ron Paul sees the 10th Amendment as banning federal prohibitions of abortion or sexual perversion posing as marriage while posing for holy pictures as a pro-lifer and pro-family guy (sucker bait for pro-lifers and pro-family folks), SCOTUS and the court system disagree with him or ignore his claim and keep cramming social revolution, abortion, perversion posing as marriage, and a cornucopia of other evils down our throats.<<<

Accordingn to BlackElk, Ron Paul should just march down to the White House, declare himself dictator, and ban abortion.

Otherwise, he is stuck with the hand he has been dealt, and that hand is,

“I, Ron Paul, do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.”

If you cannot trust a man with his oath, you cannot trust him with anything. Thank God Ron Paul believes in the Oath he has taken.

>>>You deal with the system you have.<<<

Unless you are Ron Paul. Then you have to deal with BlackElk’s “system”, which is incomprehensible to all but BlackElk.

>>>On the 10th, Paulie wants us restrained by it and our enemies empowered by it. <<<

Let’s take a look at the 10th Amendment:

“The powers not delegated to the United States [federal government] by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”

According to BlackElk, our enemies are the sovereign states and the people of the United States, because only the Federal Government is restrained (or constrained) by it.

BlackElk, does your state, Illinois, know that it is an enemy of the United States?

What a bunch of B.S. this clown spouts.

>>>I want a centralized government on foreign policy, trade, military policy and a bunch of other things. So did the Founders.<<<

That is true, except for the “bunch of other things” part. The Founders made it clear that the authorized powers of the federal government are few and defined. You can read those powers in Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution. All other powers this massive federal government has accumulated have been usurped from the people, which is TYRANNY.

Of course, BlackElk will never tell you that, because he is a big-government RINO. BlackElk name-drops the Founding Fathers from time to time to maintain credibility. So does the Left. For example, Bill Clinton claimed that the Democrat Party is the Party of Jefferson. He was not lying, well, not totally. It is the party of William Jefferson Clinton.

>>>Ron Paul is an airhead who appeals to the “I gotta be me” crowd and he is a dishonest airhead or the least mentally capable article in shoe leather in the entire American gummint. <<<

Have you noticed that BlackElk is always in the mood for name-calling? In this thread alone, Ron Paul is an “Airhead, a “Paulie”, “Little Twerp”, the “Galveston porkmeister” and “paleoPaulie”. That strategy is straight out of Saul Alinsky’s’ handbook, Rules For Radicals, the “bible” for Barrack Obama, Bill Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, and other crazies on the far left.


245 posted on 08/31/2011 12:28:52 AM PDT by PhilipFreneau
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