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To: kabar

Well - I am glad some believe those Government Statistics... I don’t ... So - illegal alien wages can be calculated - but they cannot be found and deported... Hmmm ?

The actual info I know first hand is - brick layers in about 1999 made $18.00 to $22.00 an hour - and the trade was populated with AMERICANS... the current rate for brick layers is about $8.50 to $10.00 an hour and they are mostly Mexican. The same goes for Meat Packers in northern states.

And if anyone believes that there are only 8 million illegal aliens in the USA - then I have swamp land in Florida to sell them ... The truth is there are about 20 Million ILLEGALS at a bare minimum in the USA.. To wit... Two years ago the Director of the Texas Department of Public Safety issued a letter - stating that there were 4 million illegal aliens in Texas - of which 2 million had obtained a Texas Drivers License with FALSE DOCUMENTS... I don’t believe that anything posted by the Government is accurate - ‘cause it was issued by the LYING U.S. Government...


112 posted on 07/03/2011 9:44:26 PM PDT by ICCtheWay
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To: ICCtheWay
The actual info I know first hand is - brick layers in about 1999 made $18.00 to $22.00 an hour - and the trade was populated with AMERICANS... the current rate for brick layers is about $8.50 to $10.00 an hour and they are mostly Mexican. The same goes for Meat Packers in northern states.

I can confirm that data anecdotally based on interviews my grassroots immigration group had with blue collar workers in the DC area. It is proof that there is not a shortage of workers. If there were, wages would be increasing not decreasing.

And if anyone believes that there are only 8 million illegal aliens in the USA - then I have swamp land in Florida to sell them ... The truth is there are about 20 Million ILLEGALS at a bare minimum in the USA.. To wit... Two years ago the Director of the Texas Department of Public Safety issued a letter - stating that there were 4 million illegal aliens in Texas - of which 2 million had obtained a Texas Drivers License with FALSE DOCUMENTS... I don’t believe that anything posted by the Government is accurate - ‘cause it was issued by the LYING U.S. Government

I agree that no one knows how many illegals are really here. But think tanks like Pew and CIS must use the government figures to retain some semblance of credibility for the public. A Bear-Stearns study several years ago found the number closer to 20 million based on such things as school records, consular data, etc.

In some ways it is better to understate the presence of the illegals in the census figures, which determine congressional seats per state and districting as well as the allocation of federal funds. We are creating "rotten boroughs" similar to those in the UK.

As bad as illegal immigration is, legal immigration is worse and more destructive in the long term. We will lose this country through the ballot box.

118 posted on 07/04/2011 7:15:49 AM PDT by kabar
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To: ICCtheWay
Here is why nothing will happen on immigration


119 posted on 07/04/2011 7:30:27 AM PDT by kabar
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