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To: Jeff Winston

“In spite of many claims to the contrary, no one’s (sic) produced any evidence it isn’t (sic) that would stand up in a court of law.” - JW

Interesting, you have commented so many threads, usually supporting the status quo WRT Obama. have challenged many reviews of the LFCOLB, and gone back and forth with many posters regarding the LFCOLB. After all this, you are undecided?

How do you determine that none of the *many* reviews will stand up in court?

Are you in the legal profession?

Are you aware that some claims (Vogt) (Gulf drilling case) have been submitted to the legal system?

What motivates you to post on all these LFCOLB threads?


214 posted on 06/28/2011 1:55:12 PM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Triple
“In spite of many claims to the contrary, no one’s (sic) produced any evidence it isn’t (sic) that would stand up in a court of law.”

First of all, there are no errors in the quote. So you might start by getting that right.

After all this, you are undecided?

No, I'm decided, as I indicated.

I'm decided that out of everything I've seen (and I've probably seen all of it, or at least about 99% of it), no one has yet produced any credible evidence that Obama's long form birth certificate is a forgery that would stand up in a court of law.

As to whether the underlying document is forged, I can't say. I don't think I'm God, but apparently you do, or think I ought to be.

How do you determine that none of the *many* reviews will stand up in court?

Obviously, I speak within the context of what I'm aware of. But I'm well enough acquainted with the arguments that have been brought that I've certainly reviewed every major one, and pretty much ever minor one as well.

Are you in the legal profession?

It's none of your business whether I am or aren't. Sorry, it just isn't.

Are you aware that some claims (Vogt) (Gulf drilling case) have been submitted to the legal system?

Yes, I'm perfectly aware of Vogt's claims.

What motivates you to post on all these LFCOLB threads?

I was interested in finding out for myself whether or not Obama was eligible, and I frankly don't like to see conservatives look like fools.

I particularly wouldn't care to see FR totally overrun with erroneous, debunkable birther doctrine and conspiracy theories, and from everything I've ever seen him write on the subject, I believe JimRob shares the same point of view. Ask him if you like.

220 posted on 06/28/2011 4:15:04 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: Triple
What motivates you to post on all these LFCOLB threads?

It doesn't appear to be motivated. Comments from JW and others like her/him are deterrents. Their strategy is to continually try to suck us into their arguments that we never seem to be able to win. It ends up with stubbornness and results in worthless communication.

As much as I like FR, I believe that we will need to carry on our conversations in our private rooms. Let them have this place; we can find another where they are not welcome. If they break in there, we can move again. Even though we were here first it is much easier for us to leave them here jerking around with themselves thinking they have won something. I am tired of these snarky ruses, such as intentionally asking Freepers to prove that the NBC issue was not brought up at some seemingly important point in time so they can laugh while we busy ourselves doing that.

Surrender means giving up and coming over to the winning side. Right now, they are not winning or they wouldn't bother nitpicking us on this issue so earnestly. To move and gain a fresh start is a winning strategy. Many of us are already doing work that is not shared on these public threads.

I know that the best way to win an argument is to go for an entirely different goal, and they use this technique on us all of the time. I have a focus: Declaring the President as ineligible to hold office. No matter what that looks like or how it comes about or what the dire consequences are, that will remain my goal. People can’t punch themselves in the face for too long, and if they are left here to ultimately punch each other, even better. Oh, but once we leave it won't matter as they have lots of their own goals including supporting candidates for the next elections, debt reduction and other important ambitions. Great! We need them to do just that. We don't want to distract them.

Until we have a Constitutional amendment to the contrary, to be POTUS means having two citizen parents at the time of your birth on US soil. No, John McCain was not eligible and I've said that before. Go back and look through my posts and while you are at it, also read where I talk about my high school civics class. Enjoy!

247 posted on 06/29/2011 5:36:52 PM PDT by Rona Badger (Heeds the Calling Wind)
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