To: Las Vegas Ron; Jeff Winston; BladeBryan; jh4freedom; SatinDoll; noinfringers2; bluecat6; ...
While we're over here discussing all of this I would like to remind everyone that you can still,
to this very day, go over to fightthesmears.com and see what kind of citizen "Constitutional scholar" (spit) Obama considers himself to be.
I say that it's what he believes because if he thought that the information was wrong he would be the first one to ask for a correction.
www.fightthesmears.com
The truth is, Barack Obama was born in the state of Hawaii in 1961, a native citizen of the United States of America.
And since this particular thread has been driven to the "two classes of citizens" argument I thought I would point out, according to Obama's own website, he through one of his websites, truthfully tells you what type of citizen he considers himself to be...
A native born citizen - born in America to a foreigner and a US Citizen...truth you can believe right out of the horses mouth.
So don't rail at me and argue this case says this or that case says that. That is what "Fearless Leader" has to say about himself.
The fact that the Constitution says natural instead of native shows to my mind that the distinction was thought of and probably discussed. A natural born citizen would be one who by nature, that is by inheritance, so to speak, was a citizen, as distinguished from one who was by nativity or locality of birth a citizen. A child born to Irish parents in Ireland cannot become a citizen except by naturalization, while his brother born in the United States is a native born citizen; the former is neither naturally nor by nativity a citizen, the latter is not naturally, but natively a citizen.
121 posted on
06/26/2011 4:08:24 PM PDT by
philman_36
(Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
FAMILY MAN: President Obama with brother in younger days
123 posted on
06/26/2011 4:28:18 PM PDT by
philman_36
(Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
To: philman_36; Jeff Winston; BladeBryan; jh4freedom; SatinDoll; noinfringers2; bluecat6
As the President is required to be a native citizen of the United States
. Natives are all persons born within the jurisdiction and allegiance of the United States.
James Kent, COMMENTARIES ON AMERICAN LAW (1826)
The country where one is born, how accidental soever his birth in that place may have been, and although his parents belong to another country, is that to which he owes allegiance. Hence the expression natural born subject or citizen, & all the relations thereout growing. To this there are but few exceptions, and they are mostly introduced by statutes and treaty regulations, such as the children of seamen and ambassadors born abroad, and the like.
Leake v. Gilchrist, 13 N.C. 73 (N.C. 1829)
129 posted on
06/26/2011 6:12:35 PM PDT by
Mr Rogers
(Poor history is better than good fiction, and anything with lots of horses is better still)
To: philman_36
The fact that the Constitution says natural instead of native shows to my mind that the distinction was thought of and probably discussed. A natural born citizen would be one who by nature, that is by inheritance, so to speak, was a citizen, as distinguished from one who was by nativity or locality of birth a citizen. A child born to Irish parents in Ireland cannot become a citizen except by naturalization, while his brother born in the United States is a native born citizen; the former is neither naturally nor by nativity a citizen, the latter is not naturally, but natively a citizen.
The 1896 Boston Globe lawyer understood the meaning of the natural born citizen Constitutional clause is about natural law. Too bad that the dense here seem not to be able buy a clue, although, I believe it is more than being obtuse.
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