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To: allmendream

Barack Obama Jr. is born on August 4, 1961, allegedly in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Stanley Ann Dunham (1942-1995). Ann Dunham (who understandably dropped the “Stanley”) married Obama’s father, Barack Obama Sr. (1936-1982), on February 2, 1961. Obama, Sr., an African Muslim by birth, but an atheist by admission, already had two children with a woman in Kenya named Kezia (b. 1938). It is likely, however, that Obama, Sr. was not legally married to Kezia (their marriage was only a tribal marriage), making his marriage to Dunham (if there was a marriage) legal. (Obama and Kezia eventually re-unite after he separates from Ann Dunham, and Kezia bears two more of his children.) [1,3,7,289,299,324]

If Obama, Jr. was born in Hawaii, he was both an American and a Kenyan citizen because his father was a Kenyan. If he was born in Hawaii, Obama’s Kenyan citizenship expired when he turned age 21. If Obama later became a citizen of Indonesia by virtue of being adopted by his step-father, Lolo Soetoro, Obama lost his Kenyan and/or American citizenship at the point of adoption, because Indonesia does not allow dual citizenship. [219,258]


150 posted on 06/24/2011 11:57:13 AM PDT by Ratman83
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To: Ratman83
Nowhere in there is it suggested that the standard under Article II section 1 is “born in country of two citizen parents”. It all has to do with what other citizenships he may or may not have had at birth. The Denofrio argument.

Still not “born in country of two citizen parents”, but nice try.

153 posted on 06/24/2011 12:00:38 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: Ratman83

If Obama, Jr. was born in Hawaii, he was both an American and a Kenyan citizen because his father was a Kenyan. If he was born in Hawaii, Obama’s Kenyan citizenship expired when he turned age 21. If Obama later became a citizen of Indonesia by virtue of being adopted by his step-father, Lolo Soetoro, Obama lost his Kenyan and/or American citizenship at the point of adoption, because Indonesia does not allow dual citizenship. [219,258]


There would have had to be a formal renunciation of US citizenship performed at the US Embassy in Jakarta for Barack Obama to lose his US citizenship and that would be a public record. No one has yet uncovered any adoption papers for Soetoro. If they ever existed, they have probably been destroyed.
Also Kerchner v Obama and Hollister v Soetoro et. al. have made the “two American citizen parents required” argument at the U.S. Supreme Court and neither appeal has made the discuss list for a Writ of Certiorari (the right to be heard before the full Court).
There do not appear to be the required four Justices willing to entertain this argument.
What is needed is pressure on John Boehner to hold congressional hearings in the House on zero’s eligiblity.


173 posted on 06/24/2011 1:05:48 PM PDT by jh4freedom (Mr. "O" has got to go.)
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