[editor-surveyor]

This is nothing new.

We’ve been discussing this case for two and a half years, and the honest among us have always agreed that MvH firmly established natural born citizenship as that of the child of two citizen parents.

There is not a shred of foundation for any other position.

[BladeBryan]

editor-surveyor wrote:

This is nothing new. We’ve been discussing this case for two and a half years, and the honest among us have always agreed that MvH firmly established natural born citizenship as that of the child of two citizen parents.

Thing is, real legal scholars have been discussing it since before we were born. In the 1800's there were still doubts, but they were settled. As late as 1916 Breckinridge Long argued that Charles Evans Hughes was ineligible for the presidency, but Long's argumed that Hughes' citizenship must be considered as under the laws existing when Hughes was born, which was prior to the 14'th Amendment.

In our time, the remaining doubts were about jus sanguinis:

"It is clear enough that native-born citizens are eligible and that naturalized citizens are not. The recurring doubts relate to those who have acquired United States citizenship through birth abroad to American parents." [Charles Gordon, Who Can Be President of the United States: The Unresolved Enigma, 28 Md. L. Rev. 1, 19 (1968).]

"It is well settled that 'native-born' citizens, those born in the United States, qualify as natural born. It is also clear that persons born abroad of alien parents, who later become citizens by naturalization, do not. But whether a person born abroad of American parents, or of one American and one alien parent, qualifies as natural born has never been resolved." [Jill Pryor, 'The Natural-Born Citizen Clause and Presidential Eligibility', 97 Yale Law Journal 881-889 (1988).]

I'd say that John McCain's candidacy settled the remaining doubts. "Natural-born United States citizen" means a United States citizen who has become a United States citizen at the moment of his or her birth.

There is not a shred of foundation for any other position.

Pure fantasy.

[faucetman]

“This is nothing new”

Maybe to you. Should we never speak of it again, in case someone new might hear it? Shout it from the mountain tops, over and over until EVERYONE knows Obama is a USURPER.

[Nathanael1]

"There is not a shred of foundation for any other position." You mean aside from the fact that there isn't a court in the land that has ever read MvH that way, of course. But that's their problem, not yours. All MvH says is "all those who are jus solis/jus sanguinis are members of the class 'natural born citizen'." There is absolutely nothing in that language that excludes other classes of people, and in fact MvH immediately mentions one such class, and specifically declines to exclude them.