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To: Grunthor; ken5050
No. I do not conceded that Romney cannot beat Obama.

Well, here's my concerns Grunthor. With you, Ken & other lurking FREEPERS.

I get the distinct feeling that you & Ken are not pro-Romney -- at least as far as your first pick. But you'd be willing to settle for him as a 2nd, 3rd, or 4th choice.

For some, it may not even be #4 -- but they wouldn't give a 2nd thought. They'd vote for Romney in a flash if he got the nod.

My concerns are these:
#1 We have a lot of spineless conservatives if they're telling us that they'd use situational ethics to vote for Romney.
#2 Let me give you an illustration: If an employer knew you wanted $80,000, but knew you'd eventually be willing to settle to work for $38,000, all he has to do is to wait you out til you agree to his price. When your other "job offers" just didn't "work out," hey, that's "OK" -- 'cause in your heart of hearts, you were willing to compromise from the get-go.

Likewise, if certain GOP leaders know that there's Romney resistance, but not ultimate resistance, then they are willing to just bide their time, knowing that spineless GOP voters will eventually cave. They know such voters have at their base a spirit of compromise.
#3 Romney is Obama lite on healthcare; he's said he wants states to let homosexual employees become protected class status; he's favored parents giving up their embryos for "research" as late as Dec of '07'; he's waffled so many times on abortion, his word is anathema to the pre-born! And I still have a hard time believing that so many otherwise God-fearing people would actually vote for somebody who claims they'll be a god someday. (As the Bible says, Satan has blinded the world...2 Cor. 4:4)

If you're saying you'd vote for such a pre-born wolf in sheep's clothing, I actually would challenge your so-called "conservative" credentials.

This also, though, goes beyond Romney. As I said in post #496, it's irreparable harm to the GOP. Conservatives will feel permanently betrayed and leave the party in droves, only to give potential permanent reign to the Dems.

If you think Obama's bad, wait til the anti-Christ heads the Dem party! (And no, I wouldn't do what you & many so-called "conservatives" would do and vote for bin Laden or a Hitler type to defeat an alleged Anti-Christ!)

546 posted on 05/25/2011 11:48:38 AM PDT by Colofornian (Key Q for Romney & Huntsman: Show us your spirit-birth certificate from Kolob)
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To: Colofornian

“I get the distinct feeling that you & Ken are not pro-Romney — at least as far as your first pick. But you’d be willing to settle for him as a 2nd, 3rd, or 4th choice.”

I am not by any stretch pro-Romney, but if the “choice” were him or Obama? I vote Romney. I do NOT see them as one and the same, Obama is worse.

Look, I did the same in regards to McCain in ‘08 that you are doing now vis a vis Romney but I don’t hate McCain because because of his religion. It was his politics and remarks about illegal immigrant issues.

I do not care for Romneys’ religion. I don’t like the fact that it didn’t allow blacks until the 70’s (not exactly Mitts’ fault) and I sure as hell will not vote for Romney in the primary due to his untrustworthiness on conservative issues.

But will I vote for a mormon over a muslim? Remind me again, which one of those wants to rape my daughters and cut off my head.


771 posted on 05/26/2011 6:12:00 AM PDT by Grunthor (CAIN/BACHMANN or BACHMANN/CAIN. Either way Obommunism is over.)
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To: Colofornian

You know, I guess if I really have a problem with you besides the bigotry that is, it’s that you must insult everyone that disagrees with you. I lurk on many of your anti-mormon screed threads and that is a running theme with you. If others are not adequately anti-mormon they get attacked in the most disgusting of ways. How “Christian” of you.

“If you’re saying you’d vote for such a pre-born wolf in sheep’s clothing, I actually would challenge your so-called “conservative” credentials.”

(And no, I wouldn’t do what you & many so-called “conservatives” would do and vote for bin Laden or a Hitler type to defeat an alleged Anti-Christ!)

Nice strawmen. How “Christian” of you.


778 posted on 05/26/2011 6:20:54 AM PDT by Grunthor (CAIN/BACHMANN or BACHMANN/CAIN. Either way Obommunism is over.)
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