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To: DelphiUser; Godzilla
and no we don't think God had Carnal relations with Mary, so get your mind out of the Gutter.

Really now...

I love the whole "debunked" thing you do, so let play one that actually works out to really be debunked...

“The birth of our Savior was as natural as are the births of our children; it
was the result of NATURAL ACTION. He partook of FLESH AND BLOOD—was begotten
of his father, as we were of our fathers.” (JoD, vol. 8, p. 115).

“When the Virgin Mary conceived the child Jesus, the Father had begotten him in
his own likeness. He was not begotten by the Holy Ghost. And who is the
Father? He is the first of the human family; and when he (Christ) took a
tabernacle, it was begotten by his Father in Heaven, AFTER THE SAME MANNER as
the tabernacles of Cain, Abel, and the rest of the sons and daughters of Adam
and Eve. Jesus, our elder brother, was begotten in the flesh by the same
character that was in the garden of Eden, and who is our Father in Heaven.”
(JoD 1:50-51, also “Answers”, vol. 5, p. 121).

DU, I am sure you are familiar with the words of your “prophets’ in the JoD other wise known as the Journal of Discourses...

Of course there is more...

"Jesus Christ is the Son of Elohim both as spiritual and bodily OFFSPRING; that is to say, Elohim is LITERALLY the Father of the spirit of Jesus Christ and also of the BODY in which Jesus Christ performed his mission in the flesh..." (as quoted from 'The Articles of Faith' by James E. Talmage, p. 466). "We are told in the scriptures that Jesus Christ is the only begotten son of God in the flesh....how are children begotten? I answer, just as Jesus was begotten of his Father. The Christian denominations believe that Christ was begotten not of God, but of the spirit that overshadowed his mother. THIS IS NONSENSE. Why will they not believe the Father when He says that Jesus Christ is His Only Begotten Son? Why will they try to EXPLAIN THIS TRUTH AWAY and make mystery of it?" (as quoted from Joseph F. Smith, 'Box Elder Times,' Sep. 22, 1914).

"The fleshly body of Jesus required a Mother as well as a Father. Therefore, the Father and Mother of Jesus, according to the flesh, must have been associated in the capacity of husband and wife; hence the Virgin Mary must have been, for the time being, the lawful wife of God the Father: we use the term lawful wife, because it would be blasphemous in the highest degree to say that He overshadowed her or begat the Savior unlawfully........He had a lawful right to overshadow the Virgin Mary IN THE CAPACITY OF A HUSBAND, and beget a Son.......Whether God the Father gave Mary to Joseph for time only, or for time and eternity, we are not informed. It may be that He only gave her to be the wife of Joseph while in this mortal state, and that He intended after the resurrection to again take her as one of his own wives to raise up immortal spirits in eternity." Apostle Orson Pratt, "The Seer," Oct. 1853, p. 158).

So exactly whose minds were in the gutter, and come to think of it where is that gutter?

464 posted on 05/25/2011 8:24:09 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: ejonesie22
At the time the process of reproduction was little understood ~ today we can use a petri dish. In the future we can take a few cells from your skin and make new chilluns.

In fact, VIRGIN BIRTHS today number in the millions among some species ~ we are next (if we can find enough virgins eh!)

Folks who hang their theological hat on what they perceive to be immutable biological processes are probably doomed to finding a lot of it consigned to the dustbins of history.

469 posted on 05/25/2011 8:34:48 AM PDT by muawiyah
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