WND’s Jerome Corsi: Obama “Was Born in Kenya”

thepost&email.com ^ | 5/21/2011 | Sharon Rondeau

[sometime lurker]

Bingo! Ann’s passport records are supposed to be public information. Why are we not allowed to see it?

I think you are mistaken. I don't know where you got the idea that all passport records are public information, but the US State Department does not agree:

Third-Party Requests Third party requests must include one of the following:

• Notarized consent from the owner of the passport records,
• Proof of guardianship,
• Death certificate, or
• Court order signed by a judge of competent jurisdiction requesting the Department of State to release passport records.

The only exception to this requirement is when the owner of the passport records was born 100 years or more ago. Your third party request does not have to be notarized but should include the information described in the section above that covers requesting your own record and a $150.00 search fee for each individual for whom a record search is requested. Checks or money orders should be made payable to “Department of State".

[john mirse]

As evidence in the other direction, the rubber stamp would also have to have the "smiley face" distortion in the rubber itself since that shows up on all image.

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"Smiley" look: Do all of the Onaka stamps that we see on the internet have that secret "smiley" look, or do we only see it on the Obama long form birth certificate?

My point is this: If we see it ONLY on Obama's long form birth certificate, then I say someone besides Onaka played around with the Onaka stamp in order to get that "smiley" look and play a hidden joke on birthers who examine Obama's long form birth certificate.

But if ALL the Onaka stamps that we see on the internet also have that secret "smiley" look like we see on Obama's long form birth certificate, then there is nothing strange about seeing a secret "smiley" look on the Onaka stamp on Obama's long form birth certificate.

[rolling_stone]

.....I think you are mistaken. I don't know where you got the idea that all passport records are public information, but the US State Department does not agree:

Third-Party Requests Third party requests must include one of the following:
Notarized consent from the owner of the passport records,
Proof of guardianship,
Death certificate, or
Court order signed by a judge of competent jurisdiction requesting the Department of State to release passport records.
The only exception to this requirement is when the owner of the passport records was born 100 years or more ago. Your third party request does not have to be notarized but should include the information described in the section above that covers requesting your own record and a $150.00 search fee for each individual for whom a record search is requested. Checks or money orders should be made payable to “Department of State”. ,,,,,,

You have just shown you know nothing about this issue or are being disingenuous. Stanley Ann Dunham is deceased. A suit was filed y Chris Strunk and her passport applications were shown via the FOIA lawsuit. Documents before 1965 were alleged by the State Department to have been destroyed in some mysterious destruction that they never document other than with some strange “cable” It is a cover up.

Butter has a lot of space devoted to this issue on her blog.
Did you just get off the boat?

[mojitojoe]

Agree!!! But consider the source.

[mojitojoe]

Nonsense! - Trump was working for Obama.
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Now that, I can agree with. That was so set up it was laughable.

[sometime lurker]

Come on, this was debunked (see post #10) many times. The transcript from Alan Keye's own archive:

I'm not running to be the minister of Illinois. I'm running to be its United States Senator.

Just keep repeating easily debunked myths, and you'll get the credibility on your claims that you deserve.

[mojitojoe]

I never said you were a liar. I just said I don’t beleive it happened.
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Which means you think he made it up (lied). You are a piece of work.

[sometime lurker]

Ok, missed that it was determined all documents they said they had could be released. Is there evidence that other passport applications from the 1960’s were not destroyed?

[rolling_stone]

Read her blog. Go to the State Department site they say they have passport applications since I think 1925 they have no disclaimer that some have been destroyed. There has been tons of discussion on this issue. Everything that should be available that relates to Obama is being hidden, delayed, denied, obfuscated. WHY? They are hiding the truth.

[Squeeky]

You said: “You’re right that things that might give better answers are not being released, and that’s a legitimate concern. However, it doesn’t justify claiming something as established fact, or even highly probable, when it’s an unlikely speculation. Don’t get me wrong, speculation can be valuable.”

This is true. And claiming that Obama Sr. and Obama’s mother could not have afforded to fly or go to Kenya, is just that-—Speculation aka a GUESS. Which I don’t blame you for because what much else can we do about Obama history??? Sooo, I GUESSED too about how it could be done.

Sooo, in our GUESSING GAME, to me one GUESS is about as good as the other. But if you are going to GUESS in the future they could NOT have afforded it, then if you want to be fair and balanced, you need also add my GUESS about how they could have afforded it. OK???

[mojitojoe]

Obongo lies? No, say it isn’t so. After all, his father served in WWII.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv4jnlkxOaw

[little jeremiah]

He admitted that after the Allan Keys debate. There was a video on You Tube. Obongo said “ Doesn’t matter if I wasn’t born here, I’m not running for President”. It was AFTER the debate when they were talking to reporters and bantering back and forth. That video of course, has disappeared. Watch for it to appear when it can do the most damage, closer to 2012 with little time for damage control and spin.

I hope this is factual. I have read three different freepers saying that they saw that exchange, IIRC it was on CNN live; one person (or two?) had taped it to view later. Three different people and I wish I could remember who, but I can't.

[Hotlanta Mike]

Pamela Barnett has been involved with the SAD passport records request...

Radio Interview Regarding My Soon to be Released Book – Never Vetted/Unlawful President

http://unlawfulpresident.com/2011/04/14/radio-interview-regarding-my-soon-to-be-released-book-never-vettedunlawful-president/

[mojitojoe]

Campaigning for Odungpile and then celebrating.

[mojitojoe]

My guess is.... both.

[Seizethecarp]

“The only sworn affidavit by either a governor or high-ranking official is the OCON signed by Nancy Pelosi, and the HDOH has confirmed that she signed it without ever even asking to see any documentation.”

This can't be repeated often enough.

Obama has a layered defense designed to throw up successive legal barriers to court ordered discovery. Each barrier in HI or at the DNC is a layer can be litigated up to SCOTUS.

IMO, the Obama team has now taken the calculated risk that there is now not enough time left before the 2012 election for the legal process of discovery to prove a BC forgery or NBC ineligibility due to dual citizenship at birth or subsequently (not to mention possible non-citizenship).

This only works if Corsi and WND’s “court of public opinion” fail to degrade Obama in the polls. If credible experts declaring the HI BC a forgery overwhelm the so-far superficial declarations that it is genuine, Obama could be toast.

BTW, where are the “birther bills” now? Did the state legislative efforts just fold as Obama appears to have hoped that they would? These bills also forced Obama to produce the apparent fake. Obama shouldn't be rewarded by having support for these bill evaporate. That would only prove that these bills were “all about Obama” and not about protecting the Constitution!

[Jedidah]

Relax about AI, Joe. In these troubled times, we all need a break. FWIW, the finalists are two wholesome, God-lovin’ all-American kids.

Us FReeper/birthers can do more than one thing at a time, and do it well.

[rolling_stone]

8571-8579
is a place to start. the below thread and one other long one have tons of info...this has been gone over with a fine tooth comb..including possibility that she worked her way over on a ship..no cost..I do recall seeing details on the first airlift from Africa was a BOAC charter and cost $300 or less.

As for her ability to travel, please remember Obama Senior got from Knya to Hawaii, so it could be done and he could afford it. There are other details of some of those who helped with his expenses...like I said this has been discussed and investigated from most all angles before...the point being it was possible, Ann had a passport (despite State trying to hide that fact) as the Obama Sr passport records state she went to the Philippines in 1964. Since she had a passport in 1965 she probably got it in 1960 -valid for 3 years renewable for two more thus 60-65.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2306351/posts?q=1&;page=8551

[butterdezillion]

I never said that ALL passport records are public. But passport records for deceased people are discloseable. And Obama’s mother is deceased. Or so it is claimed. And the State Dept released some of the records so it is clear that they are not refusing to disclose because the records are not discloseable.

[butterdezillion]

The records for Phil Jacobsen’s mother should have been destroyed under the criteria that was in that fake “cable”, but he was able to get them easily.