~ Social Security Numbers ~
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Posted on 05/16/2011 1:21:38 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike
Yes, and here is a clue... deceased baby girl
And most of them are still creeping around Leftie Events. They are still out there, folks... J. Edgar Hoover knew what was going on but was powerless to stop them...
“Think for a minute: if a kid wanting a job at Baskin Robbins had no SS# because he was still listed as an Indonesian citizen, how would BR list that employee in the paymaster files?”
Great scenario, except that it doesn’t fit the facts. Barry GOT his Baskin-Robbins job at age 13, i.e., in 1974, suggesting he somehow got a legitimate SSN to get listed in their paymaster files. The CT SSN didn’t get applied for until 1977. Why would he need that later illegal SSN if he’d already earlier gotten a legal one in 1974? Does not compute!
“I think the grandparents’ financial status wouldn’t matter if Zero was in his grandparents care under a foster program where his grandparents were paid as custodians.”
Yes, there are relatively small stipends available to parents without a means test. But most foster care payments go to low income families. A bank VP has a reputation to uphold: the paltry amount they might have been able to secure on Barry’s behalf doesn’t seem like it would be worth the risk of a newspaper reporter getting wind that a highly paid bank executive was receiving taxpayer-financed assistance to raise a child that they were sending to the toniest prep school in Honolulu etc. Sure, their behavior would have technically been legal, but the public blowback could have badly tarnished the bank’s image and risked her job. A bank VP earns several multiples of the average worker’s income. Why take that risk?
It is not likely that barry soetoro ever applied for the number, he just started using it because he was still an Indonesian citizen and gave himself a dual identity as American and Indonesian. When being version Indonesian citizen was inconvenient, he presented his Americanized fraudulent version. When being a foreign student was a better version for 'benefits', he used that version, swapping back and forth as he chose.
Barry Dunham, aka Barry Soetoro, aka Barack Hussein Obama is a fraud in the pustule that is the democrap party in America. He is a post turtle placed via affirmative action onto the pole that is ultimate power among nations and commerce. He is functioning as he has been taught and is accomplishing the end of the We The People Republic. Barry the bastard is above laws and mere mortals don'tchaknow!
Indeed. The only scenario that makes any sense at all is that Barry applied for the SSN in 1977, it is legit, and the Connecticut prefix is a result of a typist's error when entering his zip code (the prefix was assigned based on the mailing address zip code in the application form).
But, then again, birthers never seemed to like Occam's razor. It's just so much more fun spinning elaborate conspiracy stories featuring Bill Ayers and Frank Marshall Davis.
Well until you posted that time line I had never really considered it much. But when you laid it out in black and white like that it just made me wonder.
I never thought that Obama left the west coast for more action in the form of radicalism. I always figured he was just broke and looking to keep himself in his drug induced daze of having a “gay” old time and paying for it that way.
Now Pakistan and Indonesia would be prime areas for a young man who could pass as a local to be a courier for drugs and help him along with his habits on the way. So that is why I figured he went there.
But when you put him in the area of Ayers during that time frame it takes on a whole new light. Plus it gives a fine reason on how he could have obtained false ID from Sotoro to Obama. So wild .. yeah, but it does give one serious pause to think.
If he was with Ayers in NYC I bet money that NYPD has photos of them somewhere in their archives. They knew Ayers and knew what he was doing. They never skipped a beat on that stuff. Intel was all that they had. I bet that it is still there if someone had the where with all to look.
Now, was there something concrete that he had attended a college as a foreign exchange student or not to your knowledge?
>not to mention that Obama even claimed not to have a US passport until he became a US Senator from IL. How did he travel internationally until that time???<
No kidding?
When did he say that? do you have any links you can pass on without going to too much trouble?
I have been skimming quickly through the thread and am not singling you out for any reason at all
(just your lucky day I guess)
But I wanted to interject about the SSN. Although it is a felony to mess with SSN’s and use them in fraudulent ways for LEO’s to investigate them is in a word “impossible”.
the level of privacy that the social security administration places upon numbers and the people attached to them is unbelievable. They do not care if you are investigating “jack the ripper” and all you can take him off the street with is a ssn that is bad. They won’t give up any information at all.
They will tell you, when where it was issued or if it was issued. But other than that, you have a better chance of getting the Pillsbury Doughboy to ransack your house and eat your dog than them giving you any information.
>How about this theory? Bill Ayers had collected birth certificates and social security cards for years. When He and Obama eventually met up he said “Here, use this one.”
Obama said “Thanks.”<
probably close to the very truth
>This method of creating new ID’s is hardly new and probably criminals have been doing it for years before Ayres did.<
Correct. Actually Paladin press published book after book back in the 70’s and 80’s that were all about how to obtain a new identity from pocket litter like receipts and turning it into everything down to passports, credit cards, birth certificates, social security numbers etc.
I am sure that the are still available.
“They won’t give up any information at all.”
At some level, I guess we all should be grateful for this given that many Americans fear that Big Government will use this kind of centralized repository of individual identities for nefarious purposes.
What I’ve never understood is that I thought it literally was illegal to use the SSN as an identifier (other than for SS purposes), yet I see that number collected routinely by private and public agencies alike (I’m pretty sure DMV, Board of Elections etc. all have my SSN, presumably to “prove” I am me). Are these agencies breaking the law or are we sheeple simply too ignorant to stand up for our privacy and say “Sorry, you can’t collect that info: it’s against federal law.”
The most available thing is presence of 999-99-xxxx social security numbers. 999-99-xxxx are commonly used for foreign national students since they do not have social security numbers. It is still a standard practice and you can find references to the practice at various college websites.
Sketchy, admittedly. But the cloaking around the college records is hiding something and you have to use the data points available to see if certain equation curves fit the data points (using mathematics terminology).
The international travels of the early 1980s were kept under wraps until mid 2008. Why?
And given Obama’s support of Odinga in 2006, AND the revelation that Odinga is his first cousin - again in 2008! You have to wonder. Was he helping his first cousin try to gain power in 1982? This is also sketchy but with the recent revelation that Obama is missing 15 months that start in June 1981 and goes through August 1982...the equestion does fit the very data points. To get a different a different set of equations the answer is simple. More data points are needed. And they are being hidden - deliberately.
No public agency should be collecting your SSN. They don’t in NY except for public assistance so they can coordinate benefits. It would be used for arrest information as well.
but DMV, Board of elections no not really.
Yes, private institutions especially any institutions dealing with the making of money and tax reporting would have it because they add to your social security retirement allotments. How much you make and pay into taxes, years etc all calculate benefits.
But that is a one way street for information. It is to report on you to social security, rather than the collector of that information to track you by it.
Social Security will take information, but never give any back out.
Okay, where did the social security number starting with the 999-99 come from then? Was there some document that had his name on it at a college that used that number that someone finally actually got?
there is no doubt in my mind that he helped his cousin and would have helped the first one in his coup attempt as well. he was from the same tribe and face it, he went all out when he was a senator for Odinga. I mean, he was right there on camera working people up. I understand that he can’t be linked to the violence that took place when Odinga lost his “hope and change” campaign. But he certainly never came out and denounced it either.
I am sure it never bothered him much in retrospect either since there has been major tampering with evidence on any records of him in Kenya according to Corsi either. they are talking about government corruption there in trashing records, who else would have done that and had accessibility. his cousin!
I have said right along, I want to see his college records. I bet there is a ton of stuff there. But his medical records too. why would he hide them as well? It makes you wonder what he is hiding.
It is truly disgusting that the media allowed this and covered for him so diligently. It wasn’t even complacency that did it, they went out of their way to cover for him and ridicule people who asked legitimate questions all other presidents have answered without hesitation.
see #103
“Barry since age 10 had been living with grandparents, who were not exactly paupersI’m not sure but I think the grandparents’ financial status wouldn’t matter if Zero was in his grandparents care under a foster program where his grandparents were paid as custodians. I wonder if anyone checked to see if Zero was a ward of the state at any time? “
info would be protected, but definately something interesting??
999-99-xxxx numbers are not valid Social Security Numbers - by design and function. So they are like unregistered IP addresses of the internet. This is why universities legally use them for foreign nationals. Since they are not in the range of valid numbers there is no harm in using them where a form or computer application requires the social security field to be filled out.
http://cpsr.org/issues/privacy/SSNStructure/
“Invalid SSNs
Any SSN conforming to one of the following criteria is an invalid number:
1. Any field all zeroes (no field of zeroes is ever assigned).
2. First three digits above 770” <-—————
http://www.sinclair.edu/admissions/intladm/EmploymentTaxesFinancial/F1EmploymentF1J1Taxes/
“International students indicate on the Form I-20 that they already have support money and will not need employment. Do not count on employment to support your studies. Off-campus employment is illegal during your first nine months in student status. However, you may work on campus if jobs are available. You first must obtain a valid social security number. If you were assigned a temporary 999-99-XXXX number for use at Sinclair, you cannot use that number for employment.”
Note: “International students....assigned a 999-99-xxxx number” BY THE INSTITUTION. Common and normal practice at colleges to deal with international students who do not have valid SS#.
http://ee.eng.usf.edu/orientation.html
“USF ID Number (UXX-XX-XXXX or a 999-XX-XXX number) or United States Social Security Number. NOTE: International Students - once you have a SS Number, you MUST change your International student ID number (999-XX-XXXX) to your new SS# with the Registrar’s Office. Once you have a SS number, do NOT use your 999 number!”
http://www.shu.edu/applying/graduate/upload/Graduate-Assistantship-Handbook-Revised-2009-04.pdf
“7. International Students. International students who have 999 identification numbers
in Seton Hall’s student system cannot be paid until they obtain a Social Security Card. Information on how to obtain a Social Security Card is available from Office of International Programs, Fahy Hall, Room 128.”
999 = foreign student in almost all cases at a university. Any university.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2442166/posts?page=50#50
“To me the 999 ssn number found near Occidental College is more intriging than anything else.”
More at the link....
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