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To: curiosity; LucyT; melancholy; RobinMasters; Polarik; Candor7; opentalk; bgill; Hotlanta Mike; ...
...a US citizen child does not lose his citizenship by virtue of being adopted by a foreigner.

To curiosity:

First, you are assuming that Obama was a US citizen before his adoption. We do not know that for a fact, since he's never shown us a bona fide long form birth certificate nor any other credible evidence to show that he was a US citizen at any point in his life. All the documents he has shown us are likely forgeries.

Secondly, the constitution requires that a president be a natural born citizen. To be a natural born citizen, he cannot have had dual citizenship at any point in his life. So citizenship of Indonesia, even if he had American citizenship simultaneous to it, would make him constitutionally ineligible for the presidency.

The reason for the "natural born citizen" requirement for president in the Constitution is to assure that the chief executive officer of United States government has never had any loyalty or allegiance to any foreign country.

Sorry, curiosity, the United States offers some wonderful opportunities for foreigners coming here, but the presidency of the country is non among them.

175 posted on 05/10/2011 12:33:52 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

“Secondly, the constitution requires that a president be a natural born citizen. To be a natural born citizen, he cannot have had dual citizenship at any point in his life. So citizenship of Indonesia, even if he had American citizenship simultaneous to it, would make him constitutionally ineligible for the presidency.”

Sorry, justice, this is not true. Any country can confer citizenship on anyone it wishes. If Bolivia confers citizenship on one of our candidates, you think that would mean he is suddenly ineligible? Nope.

The candidate would have had to apply, renew, or voluntarily show allegiance to the other country As An Adult in order to have his natural born citizenship, or any citizenship status, be called into question. Conferring foreign citizenship on someone by dint of parents or spouse is a nonissue for USA citizens.

Application to the Obama situation: his purported Indonesian citizenship as a child is a nonissue. However, if he renewed his Indonesian passport after age 18, and/or traveled under it to Pakistan, or applied to college as a foreigner, these facts would, if not outwardly disqualify him, make him a very unattractive and disloyal candidate for leadership in this country. He could not win if this were finally to be proven.


186 posted on 05/10/2011 12:50:46 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: justiceseeker93; curiosity; LucyT; melancholy; RobinMasters; Polarik; Candor7; opentalk; bgill; ...
First, you are assuming that Obama was a US citizen before his adoption. We do not know that for a fact, since he's never shown us a bona fide long form birth certificate nor any other credible evidence to show that he was a US citizen at any point in his life.

That's a very excellent point that nobody have mentioned before???

252 posted on 05/10/2011 4:03:51 PM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: justiceseeker93; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; ...

Thanks justiceseeker93.


319 posted on 05/10/2011 11:52:08 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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