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To: angryoldfatman; Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus; James C. Bennett; Ethan Clive Osgoode; Abin Sur
What ethical standard does Elohim have? Have you even read the Ten Commandments? The parts about committing genocide (except for the women and girls) and not boiling a kid in its mothers milk, make for very interesting ethics.

LOL! Silly atheist. Mosaic sanitary practices and war strategies are not in the Ten Commandments! What book have you been reading? Not the Bible/Tanakh, that's for sure.

I just love it when people prove my point. (Have you even read the Ten Commandments?) Please check out Exodus 34 for the real Ten Commandments, not the fake ones in Exodus 20. And Yes, I studied the Tanakha under a Rabbi, can you say the same? I don't even know why I ask, none of you Born Againers are much on reading.

Then stop stealing Christian morals, removing their foundations, and calling them your own

Again I ask, what morals does Elohim have?

In case I am in error. Are you being sarcastic and I just missed it?

81 posted on 05/01/2011 2:09:00 PM PDT by LeGrande (I believe in liberty; but I do not believe in liberty enough to want to force it upon anyone.)
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To: LeGrande

LOL! Waiting for his reply...


83 posted on 05/01/2011 2:15:15 PM PDT by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: LeGrande; Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus; James C. Bennett; Ethan Clive Osgoode; Abin Sur
I just love it when people prove my point. (Have you even read the Ten Commandments?)

I used to read them a lot before the whiny atheists and ACLU took them down from practically every public area.

I guess their consciences bothered them every time they saw them.

Please check out Exodus 34 for the real Ten Commandments, not the fake ones in Exodus 20. And Yes, I studied the Tanakha under a Rabbi, can you say the same? I don't even know why I ask, none of you Born Againers are much on reading.

LOL! Silly atheist. "Fake" indeed. You're so full of it I could fertilize my lawn by rolling you over it!

If you studied under any rabbi it was probably Michael Lerner or one of his ilk. No rabbi I know teaches Exodus 34 as the Ten Commandments; it's always Exodus 20 and Deuteronomy 5.

Again I ask, what morals does Elohim have?

Maybe you have a point. What evidence do we have that this thing called "morality" exists? Nothing you can see, touch, hear, or smell. Maybe morality is completely imaginary, an invention for the comfort of the weak and control of the masses.

Invisible, intangible inventions should be abandoned so we can be truly free men. Let us cast off the onerous burden of this unscientific, capricious superstition called "morality" and be liberated, instead of being ignorant savages who are slaves to some ancient authoritarian idea. How about it?


155 posted on 05/02/2011 6:36:07 AM PDT by angryoldfatman
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To: LeGrande; angryoldfatman; James C. Bennett; Ethan Clive Osgoode; Abin Sur
I just love it when people prove my point. (Have you even read the Ten Commandments?) Please check out Exodus 34 for the real Ten Commandments, not the fake ones in Exodus 20. And Yes, I studied the Tanakha under a Rabbi, can you say the same?

This is interesting, since it once again highlights an illogic in your arguments.

See, by "studying Tanakha under a Rabbi" (which, I suppose, is where you got the rather interesting nonsense about Exodus 34 being the "real" Ten Commandments), you - who don't have any actual belief in the text - nevertheless think to make an argument from authority because some rabbi apparently interprets the text differently from the "born agains." Nevermind that there's no logical reason for you to think that the rabbi necessarily has a "better" interpretation of the text, since theoretically, if you want to be consistent in your atheism, NEITHER set of interpretations means anything to you, unless you just want to choose the rabbi's interpretation as a form of special pleading.

After all, the rabbi is just as separated by time from the events in question as are the "born agains," and we know that Judaism has, ah, evolved a lot in its understanding of the biblical texts over the past 1800 years - in large part as a conscious antagonistic response to Christian theological views. Hence, there's no real objective reason to prefer the rabbi over the "born agains," now is there?

I don't even know why I ask, none of you Born Againers are much on reading.

LOL. How much do you actually read? I probably read more than you do, since I manage to put down at least 1000 pages a month, on all sorts of topics ranging across history, philosophy, theology, science, etc., and in all manner of formats (books, journal articles, internet sources, etc.). I would read even more if I had more time on my hands.

Again I ask, what morals does Elohim have?

He has the morals that He defined. Can you show a good reason why He would have to answer to your particular idea about morals or ethics?

166 posted on 05/02/2011 8:17:45 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus ("I'm a member of the Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus fan club!" (Sarah Palin, Sept. 31, 2010))
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