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To: angryoldfatman; James C. Bennett; Ethan Clive Osgoode; Abin Sur; LeGrande; kosta50
Careful there, my FRiend. Your opponents will judge you by some standard they don't believe in. ;-)

That's just it - atheists cannot have any objective moral standards. They are necessarily ethical scavengers. When an atheist tries to discuss moral issues with a theist, they usually do so by completely miscomprehending the theists starting point, and then try to play little "gotcha" games that are based off of those miscomprehensions.

Like let's take James C. Bennett on here. He goes on and on about David and Bathsheba's baby, though he is probably too badly informed and unknowledgeable about the source material to know that what was going on was basically the judgment that David himself had pronounced, and he was just receiving what he had said would be fair judgment in such a case.

Nevermind the fact that the baby also went to heaven, which means that the little guy didn't even have to go through a lifetime of suffering at the hands of his fellow human beings...which is more than we can say for many who had to endure years, or even lifetimes, under the sort of regimes that people with the same type of worldview as James C. Bennett imposed on them. As such, the child didn't even undergo what can reasonably even be called a "punishment."

So, while Jimmie goes on about Bathsheba's baby and all that, he completely dismisses the millions who died because of explicit atheist regimes. Religious people, well, see they're responsible for anything bad that anyone religious, anywhere, might have done, but not us atheists. No true atheist...and all that.

63 posted on 05/01/2011 10:44:48 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus ("I'm a member of the Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus fan club!" (Sarah Palin, Sept. 31, 2010))
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus; angryoldfatman; James C. Bennett; Ethan Clive Osgoode; Abin Sur; ...
That's just it - atheists cannot have any objective moral standards. They are necessarily ethical scavengers.

What ethical standard does Elohim have? Have you even read the Ten Commandments? The parts about committing genocide (except for the women and girls) and not boiling a kid in its mothers milk, make for very interesting ethics.

Christians have no standing to criticize anyone on morals.

69 posted on 05/01/2011 11:53:42 AM PDT by LeGrande (I believe in liberty; but I do not believe in liberty enough to want to force it upon anyone.)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus; grey_whiskers

Well said, and nothing they have not been told before, but in the war against God you see many reruns. Perhaps it is only a warm up for more charges, as seen in the above referenced threads.

Indeed, how cruel of the Author of Life to take the innocent to Heaven, while showing that sin has consequences, and yet work it out for good for those who love the Light.

While atheism with its “brites” pride themselves on moral reasoning, they cannot allow that a Being who knows the end from the beginning can be doing what it just as well as merciful, if the vision of the atheist cannot see it.


78 posted on 05/01/2011 1:27:16 PM PDT by daniel1212 ( "Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out," Acts 3:19)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
Nevermind the fact that the baby also went to heaven

The atheist fools (God, not I, gave them that appellation) on this thread will probably mock me for this, but...

David's reign ended somewhere around 970 BC. Obviouslyt the mess with Bathsheeba occurred before that, but let's just go from there. So, that child has been in Heaven for at least 1,088,185 days. That's 1,088,185 days better than any day anyone reading this has ever had.

I think that should make up for the whole "died because of your parents' adultery" thing pretty nicely, don't you?

411 posted on 05/03/2011 2:10:10 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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