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To: D-fendr; AndrewC; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; ...
I believe we're talking about OSAS. Also known as the sin of presumption.

It's not presumption when God says it's so and we simply choose to believe him - take Him as His word. God is not a liar. If He says we're sealed until the day of redemption, then we're sealed until the day of redemption. Believing what God says is simply called *faith*.

Ephesians 1:13-14 In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, 14who is the guarantee of our inheritance until we acquire possession of it, to the praise of his glory.

Ephesians 4:30 And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.

3,904 posted on 06/24/2011 12:46:13 PM PDT by metmom (Be the kind of woman that when you wake in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, she's UP !!")
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To: metmom
It's not presumption when God says it's so and we simply choose to believe him - take Him as His word

You're presuming a great deal. You're presuming you know precisely what you must choose to believe and that you truly believe it and that you will always believe it. You are presuming the future, presuming your choices, and His mercy no matter what either the future or your choices are.

Are you sure you're not a Calvinist?

3,917 posted on 06/24/2011 1:46:55 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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