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To: metmom
My identity as a believer is not in a denomination. That is not where my faith is put. The local congregation where I choose to worship does not define who I am in Christ.

It’s put in Jesus. HE is the one who saves, not baptism, not the church (any church) not adherence to doctrinal position. The Pharisees had all that and were still lost.

I belong to Christ and my identity is in Him. I am in Christ. His righteousness has been imputed to me. That’s all that counts and that’s all I need to know.

AMEN!

Those who are blessed with ears to hear know that Scripture assures them of the truth of your post.

The gates of hell shall not prevail against His church, which is not an institution nor magisterium nor a bunch of old men in dresses. His church is made up of all true believers who have been graced with faith in Jesus Christ as Lord, King, God and Savior.

3,869 posted on 06/24/2011 7:36:17 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
The gates of hell shall not prevail against His church, which is not an institution nor magisterium nor a bunch of old men in dresses. His church is made up of all true believers who have been graced with faith in Jesus Christ as Lord, King, God and Savior.

Amen! I guess those who their entire lives have had it drummed into their heads that the ruling hierarchy is THE church are mentally unable to grasp the truth of what we are trying to say. I was surprised to read in the Vatican II document that at least the idea that others can be save outside of the Roman Catholic Church was proclaimed. They could have worded it differently, I think, but to come out and admit that the grace of God reaches outside of their Church and people can be saved was a positive step. Now, of course, many Catholics disagree with that - and it certainly does seem to contradict earlier Papal decrees to the affect that no one can be saved outside of them - but I thought it was quite generous of them. Nevertheless, our God does not need their permission to save all those who come to him in sincere faith. I just wish some here could understand the point that the "church" is all of us Christians and that God looks at the heart and not the sign outside on the building we attend.

3,943 posted on 06/24/2011 8:33:49 PM PDT by boatbums (my cat erased my tagline)
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