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To: AndrewC
Thank you for your reply.

Do you not understand English?

I do understand English.

I will not answer your question the way it is worded, using the words you choose. I answered it using the words I choose.

If you had said you won't answer it earlier, that would have been better.

I answered it using the words I choose.

I don't see how "But I surely know that I was not saved because I did these things." answers the question "Is baptism optional. But, I do understand, you don't want to answer the question.

If you don't like my answer, please go elsewhere and seek the answer you want from others.

Again, I don't see any logical way to claim it answers the question; but, you said you won't now so it's done.

I asked you first.

Ok, I'll give it a shot. There are sins of omission and sins of commission. Obviously, this, if it is a sin, would fall in the former category.

Is it a sin not "to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you"? I think so. I think it might be closer to say if we do not choose to be baptized we are refusing God's grace in the sacrament. If we do so out of ignorance, it would be one thing; if we do so out of pride, another.

Your turn.

3,724 posted on 06/20/2011 11:03:04 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr
I think it might be closer to say if we do not choose to be baptized we are refusing God's grace in the sacrament. If we do so out of ignorance, it would be one thing; if we do so out of pride, another.

Baptism is a sign of obedience. But to be saved...

Rom 10:8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, [even] in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;

Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

I have been baptized. I partake of the Lord's supper. I know that doing these things have no bearing on my salvation. Neither does my tithing nor any other work that I accomplish for the Lord. It is solely by the Grace of God through Jesus Christ the Risen Saviour that I, a sinner, am saved.

3,725 posted on 06/20/2011 11:32:42 PM PDT by AndrewC
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