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To: kosta50; Alamo-Girl; xzins; Matchett-PI; Godzilla; James C. Bennett; LeGrande; caww; boatbums; ...
I wrote: After all, the evidence is there for those willing to look.

And you replied: Then prove that God exists. [a non-sequitur, BTW dear kosta — another typical, willful misdirection of the kind we have come to expect from you]

I can't do your "seeing" for you, kosta. Why not try your own eyes?

I've already told you — repeatedly — that God is not subject to proof, and why that is.

That does not mean that He is totally "undiscoverable." Totally obscure, totally remote from Man.

It just means that Man has to do a little work from his side. Which means, practically speaking: Man has to open his eyes and see what is there for himself.

God has left His fingerprints all over everything that exists, including you and me. Only a willfully blind man cannot see the evidence that presents to the eyes of an honest, eyes-open man who is paying attention to what actually is, in the real world.

And not getting sucked into futile second realities instead, the realization of which ultimately depends on the denial and defacement of, not only God, but also of Man — and making the denial/defacement "culturally acceptable" to the mass....

And you deny that atheism is a "national security problem?"

What you and your flying monkeys are doing here is nothing less than trying to undermine and ultimately divide the cultural consensus that has supported and sustained American society for over two hundred years now.

Do you really think that a culturally divided nation is in the best possible form to take on the ominous threats that currently face it, and to defeat them?

Or might it be the case that, deep-down, you despise this culture, this people, this country? In addition to your evident contempt for God and Man?

God knows, but maybe you even despise yourself.

But hey, I'n not your shrink.

Good luck!

3,490 posted on 06/17/2011 3:20:36 PM PDT by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through, the eye. — William Blake)
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To: betty boop
That does not mean that He is totally "undiscoverable." Totally obscure, totally remote from Man. It just means that Man has to do a little work from his side. Which means, practically speaking: Man has to open his eyes and see what is there for himself. God has left His fingerprints all over everything that exists, including you and me. Only a willfully blind man cannot see the evidence that presents to the eyes of an honest, eyes-open man who is paying attention to what actually is, in the real world.

Amen, dear sister in the Lord. Indeed, "What is man that you are mindful of him?". The Creator of ALL that there is has deemed man worthy of his care and love yet the prideful throw it all back in his face and demand, "Prove yourself to me on MY terms, so that I can see the way I want to, in MY timeframe, according to MY variables." No wonder:

Behold, they belch out with their mouth: swords are in their lips: for who, say they, doth hear? But thou, O LORD, shalt laugh at them; thou shalt have all the heathen in derision. (Psalms 59:7-8)

3,495 posted on 06/17/2011 4:18:32 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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