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To: LeGrande; Alamo-Girl; Godzilla; Matchett-PI; xzins; kosta50; metmom; James C. Bennett; ...
Pecisely Betty, because Christ didn't exist back then.

Seems to me that is an unwarranted conclusion.

Historically, Christ wasn't "there yet." That is, as an historical personality Who people of the time could recognize as such and relate to, in human terms. But that doesn't "prove" anything about whether or not Christ — fully God and fully Man — "existed" from the Beginning. Nor does anything you know disprove this either.

But I can be persuaded otherwise, provided you can adduce persuasive — note I do not say "certain" — evidence. That means you can't get away with providing a laundry list of ill-sorted, ill-qualified evidence. You have to do the work to conjure "sense" out of the evidence. And then find the language to express it, in a manner intelligible to others.

Contra your view, my understanding is that Christ is the Word of the Beginning, and Final Judge of the End. He is Son of God, Alpha and Omega. He is the foundation of Truth, from first to last — and all the "in-between." He is First and Final Cause — and Implicit Cause of all that evolves in between them.

I have to get off now: Hubby needs to communicate.

I'll be back soon.

3,052 posted on 06/12/2011 7:01:55 PM PDT by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through, the eye. — William Blake)
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To: betty boop; Alamo-Girl; Godzilla; Matchett-PI; xzins; kosta50; metmom; James C. Bennett
Historically, Christ wasn't "there yet." That is, as an historical personality Who people of the time could recognize as such and relate to, in human terms.

Exactly : )

3,079 posted on 06/12/2011 8:33:59 PM PDT by LeGrande ("life's tough; it's tougher if you're stupid." John Wayne)
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To: betty boop; LeGrande; Alamo-Girl; Godzilla; xzins; kosta50; metmom; James C. Bennett
You wrote to LaGrande: "Contra your view, my understanding is that Christ is the Word of the Beginning, and Final Judge of the End. He is Son of God, Alpha and Omega. He is the foundation of Truth, from first to last — and all the "in-between." He is First and Final Cause — and Implicit Cause of all that evolves in between them."

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bttt

3,191 posted on 06/13/2011 3:29:10 PM PDT by Matchett-PI (In the latter times the man [or woman] of virtue appears vile. --Tao Te Ching)
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