Perhaps some “proof” that will overwhelm the Pharisee-like disbelief and accusation of fraud, demonism, and ignorance?
and what “proof” would that be?
“Pull those nails out your hands and feet and come down here! Save yourself!”?
But the atheists won't accept even the proofs they demand so the demand is in it's self false.
One of the most compelling proofs was offered on one these threads, perhaps this one, that of fulfilled prophecy concerning the release of the Israelites from Babylon and Jesus’ own prophecy about Jerusalem be laid waste.
But, ‘who cares’, says the atheist, ‘it's not MY proofs so it means nothing at all.’
“Then prove that God exists”
That was done a long time ago and it was ignored.
You are quite correct. Since the atheist thinks that belief in God is delusional, then by default, any *evidence* the believer uses to *prove* God is meaningless; mere delusion, not founded in fact. ,P> Therefore, there is no proof that the atheist would accept as valid. So they are demanding that someone prove God's existence using something that they have determined a priori, to be invalid.
19"There was a rich man who was clothed in purple and fine linen and who feasted sumptuously every day. 20And at his gate was laid a poor man named Lazarus, covered with sores, 21who desired to be fed with what fell from the rich mans table. Moreover, even the dogs came and licked his sores. 22The poor man died and was carried by the angels to Abrahams side. The rich man also died and was buried, 23and in Hades, being in torment, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham far off and Lazarus at his side. 24And he called out, 'Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus to dip the end of his finger in water and cool my tongue, for I am in anguish in this flame.'
25But Abraham said, 'Child, remember that you in your lifetime received your good things, and Lazarus in like manner bad things; but now he is comforted here, and you are in anguish. 26And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been fixed, in order that those who would pass from here to you may not be able, and none may cross from there to us.' 27And he said, 'Then I beg you, father, to send him to my fathers house 28for I have five brothersso that he may warn them, lest they also come into this place of torment.' 29But Abraham said, 'They have Moses and the Prophets; let them hear them.' 30And he said, 'No, father Abraham, but if someone goes to them from the dead, they will repent.' 31He said to him, 'If they do not hear Moses and the Prophets, neither will they be convinced if someone should rise from the dead.'"
cyc, I never said I believe God doesn't exist. I am an agnostic, neither affirming nor denying God's existence. That's why I said "prove it."
The rest is you pathetic spin.