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To: betty boop; metmom; xzins; James C. Bennett; LeGrande; caww; boatbums; getoffmylawn; Cronos
I guess the puzzling thing for me is I do not understand the "basis" of your doubt; for it seems to me you know what the Truth is.

Like I told Godzilla, if I did I would be God. I can not be 100% certain that God exists or that he doesn't exist. To declare that I do I would lie to myself and to the whole world that I am all-knowing.

We all choose to err on the side of belief of disbelief in our uncertainty (as getoffmylawn suggested). Thus#151;in all honestly—we are all agnostic to various degrees, unless we are delusional.

Just some stray thoughts, dear kosta. (I wonder whether you realize that I truly do care for you.)

I appreciate that. Things are not as bleak as you present them, bb. I think you said it all when you wrote "For me, the important thing to remember is that God unfailingly knows His own, and will save whomever He wills.... My opinion doesn't really matter, in the end. Meanwhile, I have certain obligations WRT my neighbor, regardless of his religious affiliation or lack thereof."

Let God, then, decide who is his.

Well said. A Christian is defined as one who affirms/believes "that Jesus is one and the same God as the Father and the Spirit" and that "Jesus resurrected from the dead."

Thank you for saying that, bb.

But I do get a bit hot about atheists!

Atheism is a belief; it should not be used as a sword. The same goes for Christianity or any other religion.

The "public atheists" seem devoted to undermining the very structure and fabric of American society.... In effect, I see them as a threat to national security....

I think there are other, much more aggressive and imminent dangers facing us: radical Islam, illegal immigration, dismal economy, demographic tsunamis, political radicalization, etc. that undermine our national security and stability.

2,999 posted on 06/12/2011 1:44:53 PM PDT by kosta50
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To: kosta50; betty boop; metmom; xzins; caww; boatbums
Thus#151;in all honestly—we are all agnostic to various degrees, unless we are delusional.

Well, at least if you are going to refer to me as being delusional you could have the courage to ping me to it.

Atheism is a belief;

That will be news to the other atheists hanging out here.

3,000 posted on 06/12/2011 1:53:27 PM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: kosta50; Alamo-Girl; metmom; xzins; James C. Bennett; LeGrande; caww; boatbums; getoffmylawn; ...
Let God, then, decide who is his.

Well jeepers, kosta — He doesn't need my permission to do that.

You wrote: "I can not be 100% certain that God exists or that he doesn't exist. To declare that I do I would lie to myself and to the whole world that I am all-knowing."

Well that's funny; I can say without doubt: God exists. But this is not to make me "all-knowing," just discerning. After all, the evidence is there for those willing to look.

3,002 posted on 06/12/2011 2:03:11 PM PDT by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through, the eye. — William Blake)
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