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To: betty boop; LeGrande; James C. Bennett
When we are young, we rarely fear our own death. It's a question that never comes up

Then we try to find something that will appease our of fear and, bingo, the fishers of men have their catch! We cling to religion out of fear, don't we? Fear fills the churches.

2,666 posted on 06/10/2011 3:29:21 PM PDT by kosta50
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To: kosta50

Fear that thrives on fear and irrationality.


2,671 posted on 06/10/2011 3:46:38 PM PDT by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: kosta50; Alamo-Girl; Matchett-PI; xzins; metmom; James C. Bennett; LeGrande; caww; Elsie
Then we try to find something that will appease our fear and, bingo, the fishers of men have their catch! We cling to religion out of fear, don't we? Fear fills the churches.

Jeepers, what an "inverted" way to look at these issues!

Trying to "connect the dots" of your logic, those nefarious "fishers of men" are just casting their hooks into the waters — to catch their next meal! Ergo, they are cannibals!!!

And religion in general (but especially Christianity) is just a satanic plot to deceive the stupid into becoming willing tools of slippery priests and pastors, for their nefarious ends!

Good grief, kosta — just listen to yourself. This is 100% polemical and 0% factually-based. It is mere opinion.

Well, you know the old adage: You're entitled to your own opinion — but you're not entitled to your own facts.

I have an "opinion," too: I regard true "fishers of men" as being in the business, not of arranging for their next dinner, but of casting out lifelines, to rescue drowning men.... Certainly enough such drowning men have grasped that lifeline over the ages that it would seem, on the basis of historical fact, that the fishers of men and their lifelines have saved men from drowning; there is 0% historical evidence that these fishers ever ate the drowning men for dinner. (We leave that sort of thing to Screwtape's Tempters College....)

Such relentlessly horizontal thinking! Jeepers, how do you think at all?

Plus to me, religion is not about fear, especially fear of my own death. To me, religion points me to the Source of life more abundantly — not just in the hereafter, but in the actual here and now. It points me to a way of living and thinking about the world that makes total sense to me, that integrates my living experience and knowledge into a unified order under God.

Who made all things, on earth as in heaven, in and for Love....

Where is the "love" in your view? Do you think love is not important in the world of nature and the world of men?

I don't mean the dishwater sentimental love of TV soap operas. But the love that motivates action which, in the final analysis, is performed as an act of love for God.

Do you suppose it is even possible for us to "get on the same page" when we are so very far apart in basic world and moral views?

2,875 posted on 06/11/2011 12:25:15 PM PDT by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through, the eye. — William Blake)
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