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To: Godzilla; kosta50
Supply scripture to support your construct James...

My construct? You are the one who's providing me the construct of the basis for how tribals who are without knowledge of your scripture's dogma, will be "saved". Let's be clear here.

They are not 'saved' because they are ignorant of God, they are not saved because they sin.

You mean, those tribals, right? They are ignorant of your god, which is my point all along. You claim this "general revelation" as a path for their salvation, but if this is the case, that they CAN be saved through this "general revelation" then of what use are the scriptures?

The exact mechanism for the development of that final step is not spelled out.

Saying you don't know would be more candid, and I dare say, more honest.

What is spelled out is that God will reach out to those who reach out to him.

All this, outside of knowledge of the Bible, correct?

Interesting to note that atheists spend their time attacking Christianity and not Islam.

Not me. Not even the prominent non-believers I know, either.

The same statement could be made of atheism I suppose.

Are you saying that it has its scriptures? That would be news to me.

But since you can't read my mind in-spite of all your bravado, you statement is still invalid.

Would you have known of Jesus and his crucifixion, without scripture as a source to tell you about it?

Your presupposition (learned from someone else's teachings)...

Such as?

Is there a degree of faith in that - yes...

Thanks for the admission.

2,664 posted on 06/10/2011 3:23:20 PM PDT by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: James C. Bennett; betty boop; metmom; aMorePerfectUnion; Alamo-Girl; Colofornian
My construct? You are the one who's providing me the construct of the basis for how tribals who are without knowledge of your scripture's dogma, will be "saved". Let's be clear here.

LOL, failed james - try again, you are the one putting forth the statement with your pseudoscripture setting. Lets be clear here james - you want to make a scriptural claim in regards to your statement - be specific and not fake.

: You mean, those tribals, right? They are ignorant of your god, which is my point all along.

I'll have to type slower for you next time James, since it is apparent you can't read my posts very well. I'll use my definition - since you are ill prepared to supply your own for tribals - I'm talking about an individual james. They are not ignorant of God - general revelation speaks to that. But knowledge alone of God isn't what makes you 'saved' either.

You claim this "general revelation" as a path for their salvation, but if this is the case, that they CAN be saved through this "general revelation" then of what use are the scriptures?

A path isn't a destination james - that is simple enough for even you to be able to understand. General revelation can only begin one down the path. But what use the scriptures??? Why should one wander around in the dark when they can throw the light switch on james?

Saying you don't know would be more candid, and I dare say, more honest.

No, I know there are other potential mechanism, in some cases angels have appeared to these 'tribals' and directed them to seek out missionaries in another part of the country to bring the word. Angels could also provide the message directly james. We don't always know because these 'tribals' in many instances are still remote and unknown, but we do know from encounters with others - even those in western society - that if they seek God with the limited knowledge they have, they will be met by God. Never the less you will likely dismiss this out of hand - but then that will just go to show that you are not interested in the truth.

Not me. Not even the prominent non-believers I know, either.

Thank you for making my point - Christianity is your threat because it is real - islam isn't because it is fake.

Are you saying that it has its scriptures? That would be news to me.

The works of Hitchens and others - yes.

Is there a degree of faith in that - yes...
Thanks for the admission.

Are you going to be truthful and admit that there is a 'faith' in atheism as well.

2,672 posted on 06/10/2011 3:47:39 PM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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