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To: James C. Bennett; LeGrande; Alamo-Girl; xzins; Godzilla; Matchett-PI; metmom; kosta50; caww; ...
So, do you admit what you hold as true could be wrong, too?

And you are asking because I used the word "seems?" In your reasoning, "seems" is not equal to "certainty." Therefore, I'm on shaky ground. :^)

But how can I, an image of God, tell you "with certainty" what God knows and thinks? For me to do that would be to commit what the philosophers call a major category error.

What I know of God comes through vision of two types: (1) eye sight (not of God directly of course, but of the things He has made) and (2) inner sight. It's difficult to explain this, but William Blake captured this idea exceptionally well when he said, "We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through the eye." Human cognition depends on both kinds of vision in order to arrive at Truth.

As Saint Paul testified, it is both the visible and the invisible things of God which unfailingly testify of Him, so we have "no excuse"....

But that doesn't mean that we know, or can know, what God knows — with total certainty. To make statements regarding "certainty" respecting God is to reduce God down to the size of our cognitive apparatus. When that happens, we're not talking about God anymore.

Capice?

2,658 posted on 06/10/2011 3:02:33 PM PDT by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through, the eye. — William Blake)
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To: betty boop; James C. Bennett; LeGrande; Alamo-Girl; xzins; Matchett-PI; metmom
So, do you admit what you hold as true could be wrong, too?

That in itself is a great deal more honesty than atheists can handle or will even admit on their own. Particularly since they cannot disprove the existence of God, nor even come up with a legitimate method of abiogenesis to account for life in the first place, let alone provide evolutionary solutions to irreducible biological machines and the creation of the information in dna.

2,662 posted on 06/10/2011 3:14:28 PM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: betty boop; kosta50
But how can I, an image of God, tell you "with certainty" what God knows and thinks?

I am not asking about what your deity knows or thinks. I am asking about what you know about your deity - whether you are capable of admitting that you could be wrong about that or not.

What I know of God comes through vision of two types: (1) eye sight (not of God directly of course, but of the things He has made) and (2) inner sight. It's difficult to explain this, but William Blake captured this idea exceptionally well when he said, "We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through the eye." Human cognition depends on both kinds of vision in order to arrive at Truth.

But this "inner sight" you mention, are you willing to admit that you could be wrong about it, or not?

2,665 posted on 06/10/2011 3:29:21 PM PDT by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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