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To: James C. Bennett

And how exactly will you know if someone [anyone] is saved on this side of the ‘equation’?


2,608 posted on 06/10/2011 12:29:41 PM PDT by BrandtMichaels
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To: BrandtMichaels; kosta50; LeGrande; boatbums
And how exactly will you know if someone [anyone] is saved on this side of the ‘equation’?

LOL, I am not claiming it. I am suspicious of this whole "saving" concept itself, which is why I asked about the exceptions (tribals who are innocent of dogma) and how they are "saved". It is you who should be telling me how they are "saved", if at all, knowing that they have no idea who Jesus was. If you have no idea how they are "saved" then it would point to a flaw in the "absolute law" that everyone is saved only through faith in a certain deity.

How do those tribals know that deity? If you say "inner voice", how is it distinguished from, say, that of Krishna? What if those tribals were merely believing in a version of Krishna? After all, this is what Krishna says in scriptures:

Who seeth Me, Lord of the Worlds, with faith-enlightened eyes,
Unborn, undying, unbegun.
And Rishis, Pitris, Manus, all, by one thought of My mind;
Thence did arise, to fill this world, the races of mankind;
Wherefrom who comprehends My Reign of mystic Majesty—
That truth of truths—is thenceforth linked in faultless faith to Me:
Yea! knowing Me the source of all, by Me all creatures wrought,
The wise in spirit cleave to Me, into My Being brought;
Hearts fixed on Me; breaths breathed to Me; praising Me, each to each,
So have they happiness and peace, with pious thought and speech;
And unto these—thus serving well, thus loving ceaselessly—
I give a mind of perfect mood, whereby they draw to Me;
And, all for love of them, within their darkened souls I dwell,
And, with bright rays of wisdom’s lamp, their ignorance dispel.
...
 
I am the Spirit seated deep in every creature’s heart;
From Me they come; by Me they live; at My word they depart!
...
The lore of all the learnèd, the seed of all which springs.
Living or lifeless, still or stirred, whatever beings be,
None of them is in all the worlds, but it exists by Me!
Nor tongue can tell, Arjuna! nor end of telling come
Of these My boundless glories, whereof I teach thee some;
For wheresoe’er is wondrous work, and majesty, and might,
From Me hath all proceeded. Receive thou this aright!
Yet how shouldst thou receive, O Prince! the vastness of this word?
I, who am all, and made it all, abide its separate Lord!


- Bhagavad Gita.
2,617 posted on 06/10/2011 12:59:27 PM PDT by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: BrandtMichaels; James C. Bennett
And how exactly will you know if someone [anyone] is saved on this side of the ‘equation’?

If he is honest - he'll say there is no way to know.

2,635 posted on 06/10/2011 1:42:42 PM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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