LOL, no, Godzilla.
You didn’t answer me: Saved or not? Yes or no? Simple question, simple to answer. Do so.
The smallest speck that isn’t accommodated by a dogma that declares that only faith in its deity’s sacrificial offering can suffice for “salvation” renders null and void, the entire claim of “absolute truth” paraded by this dogma. The real strawmen are the copious obfuscations that pour forth instead of a direct, precise reply.
I’ll make it even simpler for you or anyone else who may want to try: The tribals, ignorant of Jesus, are ______ because _______.
Fill in the blanks as sensibly as possible, using precise terms, devoid of ambiguity.
BTW, I am not playing any victim card. You comprehend in error. All I did was say how it delights me that they vindicate me by showing their frustration by way of heaped insults. If my delight in this vindication seems to portray victimhood to you, I don’t know what to say.
Oh, and I don’t really seek to impress anyone. Please don’t get carried away by such thoughts.
As has been clearly pointed out to you - neither you or I can see the spiritual state of their hearts and the degree of faith expressed towards God in response to what He has revealed. Some are saved, some are not. Prove me wrong - but I won't wait long because you already said you don't have a clue.
The smallest speck that isn’t accommodated by a dogma that declares that only faith in its deity’s sacrificial offering can suffice for “salvation” renders null and void, the entire claim of “absolute truth” paraded by this dogma. The real strawmen are the copious obfuscations that pour forth instead of a direct, precise reply.
The only obfuscation I see here is your refusal to apply what is written in Romans to the situation - Paul specifically refers to the issue. Once again, you fail to prove to anyone here that you have the absolute knowledge of how those people respond to the revelation God has provided. Do you mind read to tell us the exact form or manner this 'faith' must be applied and in each individual instance? Didn't think so.
In your case, you don't have that 'excuse' - you have been informed of the gospel, thus your salvation depends upon Jesus.
I’ll make it even simpler for you or anyone else who may want to try: The tribals, ignorant of Jesus, are ______ because _______.
I'll put the cookies on the lower shelf for you - because your question is based upon an invalid premise and definition of God and is commonly used to avoid the issue at hand - your response to Jesus. They are saved or not based upon their response to the revelation of God to them. Again, read Romans, and even Matthew (7:7). Can you PROVE to me otherwise? They may be ignorant of the name "Jesus", but they are not ignorant about the existence of God (of whom Jesus is a part of) Doubt it.
BTW, I am not playing any victim card. You comprehend in error. All I did was say how it delights me that they vindicate me by showing their frustration by way of heaped insults. If my delight in this vindication seems to portray victimhood to you, I don’t know what to say.
Its called playing the victim card - particularly since this is the first time's I've engaged you in this thread.
Oh, and I don’t really seek to impress anyone. Please don’t get carried away by such thoughts.
Riiiiiiiight
They like to preach, JCB. They fit Nietzsche's description of the people of ressentiment to the "T" (I am sure this will cause a whole lot of misunderstanding and more accusations!). They are not going to answer your question because they realize the consequence either answer brings. So, they will try to deflect and obfuscate and insult and belittle in hopes that you will get, intimidated, frustrated, tired and leave.
It can't be reduced to a yes or no answer, and so far the answers you have been given, you have rejected because they don't fit in with your pre-established paradigm and don't give you adequate reason to continue rejecting God.
God knows the heart. He will judge justly.
There is no salvation without Christ. Whether those who have never heard have the opportunity to receive Christ when confronted with Him is unknown.
It could well be that when they see Christ, they will recognize Him as the one they have served, albeit in ignorance and say, *So it was YOU all along*.
But that's just an opinion.
That said, God HAS given enough revelation of Himself to the world that no man is without excuse, whether they specifically ever heard the name of Jesus or not.