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To: James C. Bennett

I suppose then that it comes down to whether there is for you or for me an alternative to reason. I’m educated, I’ve been through countless hours of philosophy classes, etc., and I greatly value reason. On the other hand, I believe in faith. When reason fails, faith abounds. Indeed, who needs faith when something is objectively, scientifically, and rationally proven to be. Faith is the knowledge of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. That sustains me, it doesn’t you. I’ll promise not to throw out reason, why don’t you give faith a fighting chance.


2,420 posted on 06/09/2011 4:42:34 PM PDT by Wallop the Cat
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To: Wallop the Cat; kosta50
Am I not giving faith a fighting chance by throwing out my assumptions here frequently, to be mauled in the open by whoever chooses to do so, so that they may be able to convince me? Unfortunately, they choose to obfuscate instead, oblivious to the fact that doing so further undermines their case.

The sacrifice
Which knowledge pays is better than great gifts
Offered by wealth, since gifts’ worth—O my Prince!
        120
Lies in the mind which gives, the will that serves:
And these are gained by reverence, by strong search,
By humble heed of those who see the Truth
And teach it. Knowing Truth, thy heart no more
Will ache with error, for the Truth shall show
        125
All things subdued to thee, as thou to Me.
Moreover, Son of Pandu! wert thou worst
Of all wrong-doers, this fair ship of Truth
Should bear thee safe and dry across the sea
Of thy transgressions. As the kindled flame
        130
Feeds on the fuel till it sinks to ash,
So unto ash, Arjuna! unto nought
The flame of Knowledge wastes works’ dross away!
There is no purifier like thereto
In all this world, and he who seeketh it
        135
Shall find it—being grown perfect—in himself.
Believing, he receives it when the soul
Masters itself, and cleaves to Truth, and comes—
Possessing knowledge—to the higher peace,
The uttermost repose. But those untaught,
        140
And those without full faith, and those who fear
Are shent; no peace is here or other where,
No hope, nor happiness for whoso doubts.
He that, being self-contained, hath vanquished doubt,
Disparting self from service, soul from works,
        145
Enlightened and emancipate, my Prince!
Works fetter him no more! Cut then atwin
With sword of wisdom, Son of Bharata!
This doubt that binds thy heart-beats! cleave the bond
Born of thy ignorance! Be bold and wise!
        150
Give thyself to the field with me! Arise!
 
Chapter IV, lines 118-151 of the Bhagavad-Gîtâ,
entitled “Jnana-Yôg,” or “The Book of
the Religion of Knowledge”

2,432 posted on 06/09/2011 5:05:10 PM PDT by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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