It is only after the fact that they realize what they have done, regret it, and asks for forgiveness. More often than not, it's too late to undo the damage they have done.
Get real yourself and get some reading comprehension lessons, for more reasons than one.
Do you not understand what presumptuously sins means? Do you not understand how sinning as a deliberate premeditated act counting on obtaining forgiveness later differs from falling into sin because we are imperfect sinful beings?
What you are addressing is not what JCB asked. Do try to stay on topic.
BB, perhaps you would also like to weigh in here since you were addressed in this comment.
Presumptuously sin? Who does that?
What you are addressing is not what JCB asked. Do try to stay on topic
I am. In #227, JCB wrote "Since belief in your deitys dogma allows for the forgiving of sins, however grave they may be, what is to stop you from committing the worst of atrocities, and then begging forgiveness after the fact? To know you will be forgiven, allows you to do whatever you want, and then beg forgiveness."
Staying on the topic means the whole thing, not one sentence. It's pretty clear what idea he is presenting in context of this when he said "presumptuous sinning", i.e. tat it's easier to sin believing in the back of your mind that you can always repent and be forgiven.
Maybe you can follow only one sentence at a time and miss the big picture...I can't help you there. But you sure seem to miss a lot of things that are said here.