Posted on 05/01/2011 7:24:18 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode
More ex-Catholic errors on the Church. I'd correct here, but surely after all this time, you have heard it before? It gets so tiresome to correct posters stating errors on what my Church teaches. Perhaps we could switch and I could state errors on what your particular church teaches.
Oh, wait I can't, you have the "it's private" pass. Gee, that comes in handy here!
“However, I was not only referring to you but to the original question of metmom’s.”
I'm not metmom. If you wish to address her don't try to do so through me, go to her.
It's easy enough to tighten up:
All beings possessing human nature - except Jesus - can be wrong.
Andrew is a being possessing human nature.
Andrew is not Jesus
Andrew can be wrong.
I'm not addressing the essence of Jesus. I was addressing the truth of one of your premises.
Of course, I can compare my veracity to that of Jesus. It is like one is to infinity.(maybe even so low as zero to infinity).
Only that Almighty God is maker of heaven and earth and that His Son Is Christ who died and was resurrected.
There is no support offered from the Scriptures for what you say and that is what I look at not some Latin formulas.
I was reponding to your post about how asking someone what they believe is personal. I believe it isn’t
“I was reponding to your post about how asking someone what they believe is personal.”
In which post was that?
Okay, does any fetus possess human nature? Or is a fetus not a being?
well, I’m flattered you think I know Hebrew, but I don’t — I used to know some Arabic, but that’s the only non-Indo-European language I knew (and forgot mostly)
The Apostle’s Creed is not Scripture.
Someone can recite that and claim to believe it, and actually acknowledge it with intellectual assent, and still be going to hell.
James 2:19
You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe—and shudder!
This comment from D-fendr is what I responded to and it involved NO comment about personal beliefs nor did my response, rather the comment and response was concerning affiliation with some group:
“I honestly can't believe the question has gotten this far and so far afield and off topic when a simple “ I belong to a LCMS Lutheran Church” or “I'm a Unitarian Universalist” or whatever would suffice.”
I mean really Cronos, are you actually going to cite that post? I'm astonished that you would do so.
Well said and thank you.
You’re only prolonging the inevitable. :)
All adult beings possessing human nature - except Jesus - can be wrong.
Andrew is an adult being possessing human nature.
Andrew is not Jesus
Andrew can be wrong.
Credo means “I believe” You have your own credo.
“Simply through believing the good news that Christ died for his or her sins and then rose from the dead, a person can be forgiven of all sin, declared righteous by God, reborn into new life, and guaranteed eternal life with God”
This, I believe you claim, is your belief, part of your creed. If you have problems with a particular creed because it’s a creed, you have problems with statements of belief. If you have problems with parts of the Apostle’s or the earlier Nicene creed, you have problems with the beliefs they clearly state.
The Nicene Creed was adopted to state the right beliefs, specifically at the time, contra Arian. It is a key part of Trinitarian belief, and it separates those who do not hold the same beliefs. You’re not an Arian are you?
That’s the purpose of creeds. To establish right beliefs, right conclusions from scripture, to clearly define the common beliefs of the Church.
Your church does have beliefs, yes?
You may prefer Swindoll’s website’s for your beliefs on the Trinity - part of his creed.
But neither his statements or your statements of your belief on salvation or Holy Trinity are in scripture. And Arian and Nestorius argued from scripture also.
Does your church have a statement of beliefs, a “What we believe.” statement? Or does it state, we accept the X Confession of... ?
Can you paste it or provide a link to it?
I am not going to be baited, provoked, manipulated, or tricked into revealing my denominational affiliation.
I am in Christ. I am forgiven. My life is hid in Christ with God. (Colossians 3:3) His righteousness has been imputed to me. (Romans 4) Therefore, I know that I am part of the church, saved, born again, whatever anyone wishes to call it, and that I am HIS child and going to heaven when I die.
It can chafe at people who don’t know that they’re saved all it wants, but that is it, end of story. Their doubt about their own salvation is not going to be translated or transmitted to me, because I don’t have it.
To reiterate my post 3859.....
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2713145/posts?page=3868#3868
My identity as a believer is not in a denomination. That is not where my faith is put. The local congregation where I choose to worship does not define who I am in Christ.
It’s put in Jesus. HE is the one who saves, not baptism, not the church (any church) not adherence to doctrinal position. The Pharisees had all that and were still lost.
I belong to Christ and my identity is in Him. I am in Christ. His righteousness has been imputed to me. That’s all that counts and that’s all I need to know.
1 Corinthians 2:2 For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ and him crucified.
2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away; behold, the new has come.
I am amazed how ones denomination is so important to some....IMO only so they can knock whatever denomination one might reveal. I have seen that so often on this thread when they know what denomination a person comes from.
I also think it has to do with they are so entrenched in their ‘church’ that the guidelines they use would be in whatever others church might be... but we are free in Christ...I sometimes think they do not understand what that means within the body of believers.
Which is exactly why I won't post denominational affiliation. If it were genuinely a matter of honest debate, that would be different.
Instead what we see is *Look at this so and so, The OPC says this about Lutherans. What do you think about that?*
It's used merely in a vain bid to pit Protestants at each others throats. No different, IMO, than the old tactic of handing them a weapon and making them fight each other for entertainment purposes.
It's absolutely disgusting watching someone try to fans the flames of sectarian infighting for the purpose of amusement.
Oh absolutely...I’ve had my share with a couple individuals who consistantly twists what I say and or adds something which isn’t even there to begin with. That’s just plain nasty business but seems to be the norm for some here. Which is why I stop communicating with some once they go that direction...and usally when their backs are up against the wall with the truth they cannot deny.
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