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Reasons why we should refrain from attacking Trump (vanity)
Vanity | 4/23/11 | radpolis

Posted on 04/23/2011 11:11:50 AM PDT by radpolis

I think it is a bad political strategy for conservatives to attack Donald Trump this early in the game. The conservative media, many conservative blogs, the liberal media and Freepers are going after Trump for his ideological inconsistencies.

The liberal media will use all its powers to destroy ANY GOP candidate for president. That is a given. They want Barack Obama re-elected, even if the entire country is collapsing around them and regardless if the GOP candidate was as spotless as Jesus Christ.

But, conservatives are going after Trump also.

This early in the game that is a bad strategy for us and here are the reasons:

Donald Trump, out of every GOP candidate out there, has the most power to do the most harm to Barack Obama and weaken him as a candidate for re-election.

Donald Trump doesn't fear the liberal media like the other candidates. He is willing to go every MSM media outlet and tell the truth about Barack Obama.

Donald Trump doesn't mince words about Obama and isn't afraid of the race card. Trump doesn't talk in weasley politico-speak like most of the others.

Donald Trump has the most power out of all the candidates to nip a Romney or Huckabee candidacy in the bud.

Donald Trump is willing to use his own money to go after Barack Obama and the liberals, saving conservatives hundreds of millions of dollars in campaign contributions and ads for media. I think we conservatives under-estimate the power of free media that we get with Donald Trump's attacks on Barack Obama and his policies.

Every time we conservatives attack Donald Trump that gives the liberal media sound bites to destroy Donald Trump and his message, which is to get Barack Obama out, and it gives ammunition for Romney and Huckabee to go after Trump in the early primaries and debates.

Donald Trump isn't beholden to any GOP establishment money or establishment players who would give us Romney, who really is no better than a McCain or Bob Dole when it comes to winning a general election.

With all that being said, conservatives have every right to criticize Donald Trump for his intellectual and ideological inconsistencies, and I would never in a million years want to censor anybody for their beliefs, but RIGHT NOW, Donald Trump just being out there with his message against Obama helps us in the long run, especially before the primaries begin.

We have almost a year until the primaries begin and having Donald Trump attacking Barack Obama day after day in the media doesn't hurt conservatives, but makes it more difficult for Obama to win.

Whatever one thinks of Trump, I think it is imperative that we have somebody on our side who is willing to take the fight to other side and fight hard and point out the weaknesses, incompetence and their destruction of the US.

I am not a Trump true believer and welcome debate on this issue and would like to hear from people about the holes in my argument and their concerns.


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: 2012; donaldtrump; election2012; primaries; thedonald; trump
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To: radpolis
Gosh. I hope I wasn't too harsh.

Whores for Trump

21 posted on 04/23/2011 11:39:27 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (No King but Jesus.)
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To: libstripper

I think you make a good point.

I think Trump will make the competition stronger than they would be otherwise.


22 posted on 04/23/2011 11:41:53 AM PDT by radpolis (Liberals: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy)
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To: radpolis

23 posted on 04/23/2011 11:41:53 AM PDT by Perdogg (0bama is the OJ Simpson of the American Economy)
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To: libstripper
An additional reason to support Trump now, regardless of how any one of us might choosed to vote, is his candidacy puts terrific pressure on the GOP estblishment to come up with somebody, acceptable to the Tea Party, who can take on Trump and beat him in the primaries. That will require a pit bull who will attack the Illegal as hard as Trump is attacking him, IMHO either Rick Perry or Chris Christie.

We don't need Trump to pressure the GOP establishment to come up with good Tea Party candidates. Palin, West, Bachmann and Cain are all good potential Tea Party candidates.

BTW, Perry and Christie ARE establishment RINOs.

24 posted on 04/23/2011 11:43:13 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: EternalVigilance

Thanks for sharing.

I appreciate the dissenting arguments and I didn’t see that article when it was posted.


25 posted on 04/23/2011 11:45:38 AM PDT by radpolis (Liberals: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy)
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To: radpolis

If Trump is using a “pseudo-Presidential run” merely to build a high podium from which to attack Barack Obama’s record, birth situation, etc., then more power to him; as someone said recently, “Trump makes a great attack dog against Obama!”

But one of the reasons conservatives are criticizing Trump so early is that we believe he MUST NOT BE ALLOWED TO WIN THE PRIMARY. Given enough led-by-the-hyped-up-emotions people (and our electorate has a staggering number of those), Trump could easily “flash-and-wow” his way into the nomination... which would, frankly, be a complete disaster—since Trump is liberal/libertarian, and not conservative.

(If he wanted to run for the U.S. Senate against Chuck Schumer, on the other hand, I’d be all for it!)


26 posted on 04/23/2011 11:45:42 AM PDT by paladinan (Rule #1: There is a God. Rule #2: It isn't you.)
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To: radpolis

Without Trump, the GOP campaign will be a snooze-fest, I guarantee with Trump in the race, a lot more people will tune into the GOP debates.


27 posted on 04/23/2011 11:46:26 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: radpolis

You are correct. The media wants him quashed but is unable to do it. We have 15 months to decide. I think Trump thinks Obama is a buffoon puppet and is killing the America he grew up in. I agree with him.


28 posted on 04/23/2011 11:47:05 AM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: EternalVigilance
Hadn't seen that.

>>>>>..now there’s “the Donald,” who really is a good fit for the modern Republican Party: More money than actual knowledge, understanding, wisdom, or sense. Totally centered on celebrity, money, and media. Shallow. Unprincipled. Deceptive. .. Trump, ever the brash, arrogant showman, throws caution to the wind and says anything to pander to the lowest common denominator. No demagoguery is beneath him,

Nice slice and dice job on Trump.

29 posted on 04/23/2011 11:50:57 AM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: radpolis
Yeah, so were was Trump at in '09 and '10 huh?
Governor Palin has been attacking Obama since then, she isn't beholden to the GOP establishment, she doesn't care about the liberal media, and she too is wealthy & powerful and has thousands of grassroots conservatives ready to spring into action the minute she declares.
I reject your premise. Trump is a sideshow circus freak. He isn't advancing anything that has already been discussed. Barry would love for the BC issue to be in the news so he can continue to destroy our economy, our strength, and the American people in the process. We have serious issues that aren't being discussed. I'm not worried about him running 3rd party or independent because there's no way in Hell conservatives are going to support him anyway.

30 posted on 04/23/2011 11:51:12 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Governor Sarah Heath Palin for President of the United States in 2012)
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To: Reagan Man

Somebody has to do it. This is beyond ridiculous.


31 posted on 04/23/2011 11:55:59 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (No King but Jesus.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Yeah, so were was Trump at in '09 and '10 huh?

Shoot, where was he this year?

Funding Rahm Emanuel to the tune of $50,000.00 for mayor of Chicago.

32 posted on 04/23/2011 11:57:46 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (No King but Jesus.)
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To: eyedigress

Its the way the Right works. We destroy ourselves. WE are going to put Obama back in office by spiting ourselves. So what if Trump is not a true conservative. Neither are any of the other candidates WHO ACTUALLY HAVE A SNOWBALLS CHANCE OF WINNING A GENERAL ELECTION!

If we don’t get behind someone, anyone who can actually beat O in a general election we are gonna end up with Romney who will all but guarantee that O gets another 4 years.


33 posted on 04/23/2011 11:58:19 AM PDT by hillarys cankles
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To: radpolis
Both the left and right are attacking Trump. Seems similar to when both were going after Palin.

The political elite do not like outsiders. They threaten the system that keeps recycling the same people and shadow interests in government.

34 posted on 04/23/2011 12:01:32 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: EternalVigilance

You’re not alone.

We’ve been here before and I agree, this is beyond ridiculous. After posting the facts on Trump’s liberal record for several weeks, its sad to see so many have been hoodwinked by this professional huckster.


35 posted on 04/23/2011 12:02:35 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: ejdrapes

Seems like many people are scared of the “third party” scenario.

What happens if the GOP nominates another McCain? Will the Tea Party sit back and take that?

I don’t think so.

There could be a Third Party candidate and it may not be The Donald.

JMHO


36 posted on 04/23/2011 12:04:57 PM PDT by not2worry (WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND)
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To: hillarys cankles

Hold it there cankles, Myth Romney is taking votes from Odingo.


37 posted on 04/23/2011 12:05:09 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: Reagan Man

Trump has exposed a whole new layer of unprincipled folks in the GOP. A substantial one.


38 posted on 04/23/2011 12:05:20 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (No King but Jesus.)
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To: ejdrapes
What happens if Romney wins the republican nom and Trump runs third party as a populist/conservative? You going to vote for Mitt? For obama?
39 posted on 04/23/2011 12:07:10 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: radpolis

Trump will kick the Left in the teeth...

Something our gelded GOP metrosexuals haven’t got the guts to do...


40 posted on 04/23/2011 12:07:39 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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