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Baiting the birthers (Smell their fear)
The Chicago Tribune ^ | April 22, 2011 | The Editors

Posted on 04/22/2011 7:43:14 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: skinkinthegrass

It’s for the best. We just all need to shut up. Crazy people shouldn’t upset or betters... I have cowed myself now and I ‘feel’ better for having done so ;)


41 posted on 04/22/2011 9:03:21 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: digger48

They TRIED to explain African.

Here’s what they said: Africans back then did not call themselves Negro or Colored or Black. African is how they would have referred to themselves. They gave examples from Kenyan legal papers or something.

So...

How does “African” wind up as a box to check for race back here in Hawaii??? No idea.

But that was their shot at explaining it.


42 posted on 04/22/2011 9:07:20 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: AmericanVictory

Hawaiian law requires a birth certificate to get a drivers license.
But not to be president?

Birth certificates can be amended. What was on the original? They can be obtained to this day by parent residents for children born outside re state or country. That’s why we need to see the actual birth certificate.

Another year and $8 a gallon gas prices, 75% of Americans will be demanding to see the birth certificate. Now it’s 75% of Republicans.


43 posted on 04/22/2011 9:12:24 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: BobP

I think Trump is serious about running. If there is going to be a more conservative candidate, acceptable to most everyone here on this site as one, that candidate had better step up and get moving, because Trump would be seriously encouraged by what’s happened over the last couple of weeks, and is now either the front runner, or tied as such.

Agreed - direct attack on the incumbent works (unless losing gracefully is what the Republican Party counts as success).


44 posted on 04/22/2011 9:14:03 PM PDT by OldNewYork (social justice isn't justice; it's just socialism)
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To: Washi

“The conspiracy theorist in me would speculate that the best reason for not releasing a real birth certificate is to allow the controversy and speculation to continue. Enlist the media to paint “birthers” as fringe elements, radicals, and kooks. Then, sit back and laugh as conservative politicians have to take a stand on one side or the other.”

The problem is that more and more people are starting to have doubts. That’s a big problem - and it won’t be solved by suddenly producing a BC and saying “Fooled ya!”

If, at some point, Team Obama does produce an actual birth certificate, there’s just as big a question to be asked in why he’s spent so much money fighting against its release - and if ‘just trying to make conservatives look bad’ is an ethical or appropriate use of taxpayer money.

Hiding the birth certificate just for the sake of playing games could potentially hurt him with people who, as of right now, don’t care one way or the other about the BC issue.


45 posted on 04/22/2011 9:15:05 PM PDT by COgamer
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To: TigerClaws
Hawaiian law requires a birth certificate to get a drivers license. But not to be president?

For real hypocrisy, understand that Obama voted for a Federal law that requires the state to verify the validity of any birth certificate used to apply for a drivers license ... yet Hawaii says they can't get Obama's permission to verify his birth certificate. They don't need his permission. He voted for a standard that they won't apply to him.

46 posted on 04/22/2011 9:16:51 PM PDT by edge919
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To: TigerClaws

I grew up in the 60’s.

If I’d called any of my black friends “African” they’d have kicked my butt.


47 posted on 04/22/2011 9:20:51 PM PDT by digger48
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To: Norm Lenhart

Have you seen this thread? It’s pret-ty amazing. Info I haven’t seen before and I’ve been obsessively obsessed on the topic for almost 3 years. Start anywhere but don’t miss stuff. Fred Nerks is on fire. (No courtesy ping ‘cause he be busy.)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2702976/posts?page=924


48 posted on 04/22/2011 9:35:39 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Norm Lenhart

The idea that Zero is refusing to show his BC is all a clever ploy to make “us” look stuid and at some undetermined point in the future he’ll pull it out of his pocket and go “Nyah nyah nyah nyah nyaaaah nyah” is beyond made up rediculous.

He’s sweating with fear now. Beacuse he can’t show anything; either there isn’t one, or whatever is there is so extremely damaging that it will prove he isn’t who he says he is, and federal marshals may be in his future.


49 posted on 04/22/2011 9:38:59 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Ronin
The most basic function of leadership is commanding trust of the citizen.

Osama has lost 70 percent of the peoples trust. Mocking 50 percent of them who simply ask for a routine document doesn't seem to be working in his favor.

At some point the MSM is going to have to let Osama show his cards. It's pissing them off.

50 posted on 04/22/2011 9:45:18 PM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: little jeremiah

I think he ‘might’ have thought it at one time, but people like Abercrombe and HI Dept. of Health et all screwed up his plans. Now, he’s insane if he were to try passing off a ‘real’ forgery with the growing level of scrutiny. Trump, us, indys and Dems all think something stinks and there’s no way to effectively brush it off. He’ll keep making birther jokes and playing Mr. Above-it-all, but you are right. He, along with the rest of the cabal are sweating bullets.

If we don’t let it go away, it will not go away. And all the whining and accusations of the MSM and establishment pols can’t do a damn thing to stop it.


51 posted on 04/22/2011 9:46:50 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Kleon
And still no ten dollar long form birth certificate that shows what hospital he was born in and what doctor delivered him.

Neither of which has anything to do with whether he's eligible for office. The certificate he's provided comes from the same office and clearly shows his birth place as Hawaii. This is a dead story for anyone except those who will simply not accept the truth.

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Fight the Smears, Obama's site: I looked at Obama's short form birth certificate on his Fight the Smears site, where the serial number is blacked out.

FactCheck: I then went to FactCheck to look again at Obama's short form birth certificate, but this time, the serial number is blacked-out.

Are both documents supposed to be the same, exact birth certificate?

Something must be wrong with my eyesight, because the two short forms don't look the same to me at all although they are supposed to be the same, exact document.

For instance, on the birth certificate at FactCheck, I can see a RAISED seal, but on the one at Obama's Fight the Smears site, I don't see any seal at all. So what is going on? Do I need a new pair of glasses?

52 posted on 04/22/2011 9:58:37 PM PDT by john mirse
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To: TigerClaws; digger48

So, are you guys basically saying that the term “African” is a post 1990s term, that was included/forged on the alleged COLB by an ignorant Democrat operative, right?


53 posted on 04/22/2011 10:32:22 PM PDT by ROTB (Sans Christian revival, we are government slaves, or nuked by China/Russia when we revolt.)
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To: Kleon
This is a dead story for anyone except those who will simply not accept the truth.

Your above statement is probably one of the most ignorant statements I've read in many years.

54 posted on 04/22/2011 10:58:25 PM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: scripter

Happy Easter, Scripter!


55 posted on 04/22/2011 11:03:04 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: ROTB

There is a list of accepted racial/ethnic designations for official documents, listed on various threads including the one below, somewhere on it.

“Negro” was the term for black people, not “African”. You couldn’t just make up whatever term you wanted.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2702976/posts?page=936


56 posted on 04/22/2011 11:04:53 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Norm Lenhart

I’ve noticed that they are retreating gradually to a fall back position. Did you see the thread about an ad in a black newspaper about it’s okay for a president not to be born in the US? And some NPR fool saying that the NBC clause needs to go?

They’re afraid it’s going to come out that there is no BC showing he was born in the US.

What they don’t want anything to think about now is his parentage.... SO the trollies are hitting heavy on “Stanley Ann was TOO his mother!!!”

Flak, target, etc. You’ll see on that thread, if you have the time to read the last say 20 pp of it. I think. I’m obsessed. I really should change and be a different person.

But, as they say, Be yourself - everyone else is already taken.


57 posted on 04/22/2011 11:09:10 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

Same to you, lj!


58 posted on 04/22/2011 11:11:52 PM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: F15Eagle

Whats most bizarre is the Legislature and Congress that are covering for this clown.


59 posted on 04/22/2011 11:19:39 PM PDT by Concho (-)
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To: scripter

Thank you. I hope you and yours are all well and happy.


60 posted on 04/22/2011 11:23:57 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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