3rd Annual Greek Genocide Commemoration (video) outside U.N.

The Silent Majority No More ^ | April 11, 2011 | TSMNM

[OddLane]

On April 6, 2011 (Black Easter), across from the United Nations in Ralph Bunche Park, Greek American Community Leaders, American Scholars, and American Activists assembled to remember the victims of the Greek, Armenian, and Assyrian Genocides perpetrated by Turkey from 1914 till 1923.

This year’s event, as always, was held on April 6th the Pan-Hellenic Memorial Day for the Genocide of Thracian Hellenism, which is in remembrance of Black Easter in 1914. (VSB also covered this commemoration last year.) .

What follows is an excerpt from a published statement regarding the commemoration:

“For the second year in a role the event was commenced by the reading of the ancient Orphic Hymn ‘Thanatos’ by Georgia Nomikos.

[Squawk 8888]

I’m living in a strange country, it’s so hard to find
It’s not on any map, you carry it in your heart and mind
Outside I hear the ground shaking up from underneath
It’s only when the empire’s breaking
That you see their teeth

http://alstewart.com/publicfiles/LYRICS_rainbarrel.htm

[randomhero97]

Can anyone explain to me why Western Europe turned it’s collective back to this?

[Lonesome in Massachussets]

When ordering the invasion of Poland, Hitler is said to have remarked

Our strength is our quickness and our brutality. Genghis Khan had millions of women and children hunted down and killed, deliberately and with a gay heart. History sees in him only the great founder of States. What the weak Western European civilization alleges about me, does not matter. I have given the order—and will have everyone shot who utters but one word of criticism—that the aim of this war does not consist in reaching certain designated [geographical] lines, but in the enemies' physical elimination. Thus, for the time being only in the east, I put ready my Death's Head units, with the order to kill without pity or mercy all men, women, and children of the Polish race or language. Only thus will we gain the living space that we need. Who still talks nowadays of the extermination of the Armenians?

[Sherman Logan]

Because they were in the middle of a war to the death, and for that matter were already at war with the Ottoman Empire? There were nearly half a million Allied casualties at Gallipoli, which was the main Allied attempt to attack the Ottomans. What more did you want them to do?

[randomhero97]

Yes, I am very aware of history. I’m mainly talking about postwar to present day.

[OddLane]

It's a long story.

I'd start by reading this book.

[gusty]

What happened was that after the end of WW1, Greece occupied a large chunk of the former Ottoman Empire. Not content with the Greek populated areas around the eastern Aegean, the Greek army marched into central Turkey in order enlarge the area they controlled. This was driven by internal Greek politics. The Greek offensive was met by the new nationalist Turkish army of Kemal Ataturk. Ataturk was in the process of forming a Turkish state upon the wreckage of the former Ottoman Empire. A state based on Turkish nationalism, secular, and free from the bonds of Islam. The armies met in battle and the Greek army was routed. Ataturk’s forces pushed the Greek army clear out of western Turkey. Unfortunately the Greek minority population of the area was pushed out with the Greek army. The Western powers saw in Ataturk a strong bullwark against Bolshevik infuence in the Middle East, thus they did not back up Greece. The ultimate blame for these events rest in Athens, as the Greek governments need to prove themselves led to this disaster.

[Sherman Logan]

A quite reasonable summary of events.

All sides committed horrible atrocities.

[OddLane]

Not true at all.

Armenian and Greek Genocide by Turkish Muslims

[Sherman Logan]

I should have said, “A quite reasonable and balanced summary with the exception of the last sentence assigning blame to Athens.”

That’s an assertion I don’t entirely agree with. IMO there was plenty of blame to go around. For instance, the Allies encouraged the Greeks to invade Asia Minor, then hung them out to dry when they became over-extended.

[OddLane]

Well, I think the Allies bear a lot of responsibility for abandoning the Greeks and Armenians and other Christians in the aftermath of World War I, but the narrative the Turks are trying to sell is preposterous.

The Muslim jihad against Christians in Asia Minor took place over the course of centuries.

The second Armenian genocide was just the culmination of years of effort on their part.