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To: hoosiermama; Seizethecarp

FROM YOUR COMMENT: [21] When Obama Sr. left for America, he left behind his baby son, Roy, and his young wife, Kezia, who was pregnant with their daughter, Auma

FROM THE ARTILCLE POSTED ON FR:“I remember escorting him to the Jomo Kenyatta
International Airport, Nairobi, then known as Embakasi airport,” she says.

“He asked me to take care of our only child then, Malik Abongo, who was six years old. I was pregnant with our second child — Rita Auma.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2362788/posts

THAT’S JUST ONE EXAMPLE WHY I BELIEVE ONE CANNOT ACCEPT ANYTHING WRITTEN ABOUT THE KENYAN CONNECTION AT FACE VALUE.

And seizethecarp, although you obviously wish I would give it up, I will not. If you want to convince me the kenyan came to Hawaii from Kenya without a lenghthy period on the mainland - it’s really quite simple. SHOW ME ANY KIND OF ENTRY DOCUMENT.


1,204 posted on 04/25/2011 12:11:22 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Fred Nerks; Fractal Trader; Plummz; David; Red Steel
“If you want to convince me the kenyan came to Hawaii from Kenya without a lenghthy period on the mainland - it’s really quite simple. SHOW ME ANY KIND OF ENTRY DOCUMENT.”

Umm...has it occurred to you that YOU have not shown any entry document or any evidence at all that BHO Sr. was ever anywhere other than in Kenya from 1955 to 1959.

You have also shown no document of any kind establishing that “Ann (USA)” in the party picture was “Anna Obama” or was ever in Seattle, or that she ever had a baby that was babysat for by Mary Toutonghi in January of 1961 or that Mary Toutonghi ever baby sat anyone in January of 1961.

You have also failed to explain how the U of HI and U of WA have corroborating transcripts for Mercer HS grad Stanley Ann Obama without resorting to a conspiracy theory that the transcripts in HI and WA were doctored.

You have shown no documents linking Malcolm X to Barry. You seem to have no proof of that claim other than that two people who share certain general negroid features "look alike" to you. You have found lots of circumstantion evidence that assorted Marxists in the worldwide Soviet KGB controlled web of the late 1950's had a lot of links to each other. No surprise that Malcolm X, Maya Angelou, Odinga, Sukarno, FM Davis etc. could be found together at various times.

You ignore that fact that in the picture of Grampa Stanley Armour at the beach where he has the "big grin" he is a dead ringer for the adult Barry's "big grin" linking Barry to his mom and her familial chin.

You ignore the fact that your own pictures of Barry's half David as a toddler (born about 1969, given age difference to older brother Mark) is almost identical to the pictures you have posted of Barry at that age giving striking evidence that BHO Sr. IS Barry's father. Your claims that the Ndesanjo brothers are misidentified or were born earlier have no documentary support.

You continue to rely on dialog quotes from Dreams, an admitted work of partial fiction (but we mostly can't document which parts) as primary, not secondary, source of information. Dreams, especially Ayers-crafted dialog, is totally unreliable as a primary source and must be double-checked. Sure the motivations behind what is put into and left out of Dreams must be weighed, but only AFTER independent documentary and witness evidence is obtained.

1,222 posted on 04/25/2011 9:24:39 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Fred Nerks
“THAT’S JUST ONE EXAMPLE WHY I BELIEVE ONE CANNOT ACCEPT ANYTHING WRITTEN ABOUT THE KENYAN CONNECTION AT FACE VALUE.

“And seizethecarp, although you obviously wish I would give it up, I will not.”

Those two stories agree the Kezia was pregnant with Auma but disagree on the age of the older child, showing reporters get facts wrong which requires CORROBORATION from other sources to get a better idea of what happened.

I don't wish that you “give up” as I very much appreciate all of your posting of pictures and documents. What I wish you would not do is attack the substantial corroborated evidence that SADO is Barry's mom and she was a student in WA based, it appears, on either secret evidence that you claim you have but can't show and/on your personal fascination with the idea that Malcolm X was Barry's dad.

The whole world is now coming together around the corroborated narrative that SADO in WA for the year immediately after Barry's birth SHOWS DREAMS IS A LIE and begs the question “What other lies about his birth circumstances has Barry told?”

Lots of folks doing web searches are coming to FR to validate there growing awareness of this corroborated narrative and sending them off on Fred Nerks’ pet digression based on no documentary evidence whatsoever, but only flimsy speculation based on decades old newspaper stories and ad hominem attacks on Seattle historians does a disservice to truth-seekers, IMO.

1,233 posted on 04/25/2011 12:53:50 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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