Obama's aunt angry at Trump (Now she claims family got letter from BHO Sr. in Hawaii)

WHDH-TV / CNN ^ | April 11, 2011

[2ndDivisionVet]

BOSTON - Barack Obama's aunt, Zeituni Onyango, says Donald Trump disrespected her family by questioning the president's birthplace.

Trump quoted Obama's grandmother when she claimed to have witnessed Barack Obama's birth in Kenya, and Onyango says that is not true.....

[Fred Nerks]

One thing other nations can learn from Hawaii, he says, is the willingness of races to work together toward common development, something he has found whites elsewhere too often unwilling to do...

If I had the patience, I would transcribe what he did actually have to say in that article dated June 1962...in which, in the second last paragraph he is quoted as saying he had not been back to Kenya for seven years.

Now let's think about that for a moment.

Without that article, we are expected to believe he came from Kenya in 1959...sponsored by Tom Mboya. But it has since been established he was NOT part of the first airlift, he was in Hawaii months before the first airlift contingent arrived at Idlewild in September.

The myth wants us to believe he came straight from Kenya. Where he worked as a Clerk for an arab...no names, no dates.

Yet he speaks (if we can take it that what Ayres wrote reflects what the keynan says in the article) like some kind of world-weary, well travelled, social commentator, with his nose held high...as if there's a smell!

My goodness, when he attended the school at Maseno, the students learned 'useful trades' like carpentry and tailoring...and then he worked for an arab...

JUST WHERE DID HE GET THESE LOFTY IDEAS? I think I can tell you where. HE WAS ON THE MAINLAND US from 1955. And Lord only knows who indoctrinated him to become the elitist SNOB that he was...BEFORE HE CAME TO HAWAII!

[little jeremiah]

Excellent points. I wonder, too.

[Absolutely Nobama]

Can’t wait.....

[LucyT]

. . . . Catching up is hard work.

New information here, and also photos. - Begin at # 261 , and read to end of thread on Next Page.

The photo at # 285 doesn't look like Senior when it is enlarged, (imo.)

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[bgill]

I thought back last year or so we’d found where he was after the Kenyan school and before coming to America. Can’t remember where it was but iirc his father wasn’t happy about it. Then the “two missionary ladies” chipped in and sent him to somewhere in America before he ended up in Hawaii before the airlift.

[GregNH]

Thanx LucyT for the ping. Now I am still in the office on a Friday with tax deadline in front of me....LOL

I may be off base with this but his comment about finding his BC and “vaccination” forms leads me to think. I was vaccinated in school as I believe most were in the US, right? I don’t remember having any forms though, and i raised three kids and I don’t remember any forms for them either. But if one were being brought into the country wouldn’t one need, if your a child, a birth certificate and immunization papers? And wouldn’t they then be together in one place?

[GregNH]

The other thing I want to re-read is the description of Obama that the women from where Ann was renting while attending classes at WSU.
I am vaguely remembering something that could be significant. Does someone have that handy?

[Fred Nerks]

By David Maraniss
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, August 22, 2008;

EXCERPT: 5 pages

(Reading between the lines)

In the family lore, Obama was accepted into graduate school at the New School in New York and at Harvard, and if he had chosen the New School there would have been enough scholarship money for his wife and son to come along.

HARVARD HAS NEVER MENTIONED THE ILLUSTRIOUS FATHER OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES AS AN ALUMNI. WONDER WHY?

However, the story goes, he opted for Harvard because of the world-class academic credentials a Crimson degree would bring. But there is an unresolved part of the story: Did Ann try to follow him to Cambridge? Her friends from Mercer Island were left with that impression. Susan Botkin, Maxine Box and John W. Hunt all remember Ann showing up in Seattle late that summer with little Barry, as her son was called.

THAT WOULD BE THE SUMMER OF 1961 THEY ARE REFERRING TO, CORRECT?
AND JUST LIKE NEIL ABERCROMBIE, THEY CAREFULLY - TOO CAREFULLY IMO, REFER TO ‘HER’ AS ANN. WAS THAT INSURANCE FOR LATER...WHEN WE FIND OUT WHO ANN REALLY WAS?

“She was on her way from her mother’s house to Boston to be with her husband,” Botkin recalled. “[She said] he had transferred to grad school and she was going to join him.

HE DIDN’T LEAVE HAWAII UNTIL JUNE 22, 1962. THERE’S A YEAR MISSING SOMEWHERE...

And I was intrigued with who she was and what she was doing.

SO AM I. PARTICULARLY WHO SHE WAS.

Stanley was an intense person . . . but I remember that afternoon, sitting in my mother’s living room, drinking iced tea and eating sugar cookies. She had her baby and was talking about her husband, and what life held in store for her. She seemed so confident and self-assured and relaxed. She was leaving the next day to fly on to Boston.”

HMM. SUSAN, YOU SAY ‘SHE’ CAME TO VISIT YOU WITH A BABY, AT YOUR MOTHER’S HOUSE. WHERE WAS ‘SHE’ LIVING? AND YOU CALLED HER STANLEY. ANN/STANLEY - ARE THEY INTERCHANGABLE NAMES?

But as Botkin and others later remembered it, something happened in Cambridge, and Stanley Ann returned to Seattle. They saw her a few more times, and they thought she even tried to enroll in classes at the University of Washington, before she packed up and returned to Hawaii.

NOW IT’S STANLEY ANN. IS THIS THE SAME PERSON WHO WAS LISTED IN THE POLK AT THE SEATTLE ADDRESS AS ANNA?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/22/AR2008082201679_5.html

[Fred Nerks]

Cross posted from OBAMA THE AFRICAN COLONIAL

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/10/how-could-stanl.html

excerpts:

1955: Frank Charles Laubach founded “Laubach Literacy International” (LLI) which was headquartered in New York State and serving Africa, the Middle East, Asia, Latin America and the Caribbean The objectives of LLI were to form partnerships for literacy, community development and peaceful social change. Dr. Laubach felt that World peace is a future ideal of freedom, peace and happiness among and within all nations. “The realization of world peace may also make the idea of individual nations obsolete.” LLI’s stated goal is identical to Marxism, which states that communism is the final stage in human society and is both classless and stateless.

The LLI was formed during an era when states required voters to meet minimum qualifications, such as passing literacy tests, in order to register to vote: a principal means by which southern states had prevented African-Americans from voting (to disenfranchise voters). Frank Laubach and Elijah Mohammed of the Nation of Islam both felt that minorities must learn to read to realize their goal of Pan-African social change. It is widely known that Malcolm Little (later Malcolm X), introduced to Nation of Islam (NOI) philosophy while in prison, spent his days memorizing the dictionary. In the context of illiterate blacks not being allowed to vote, LLI, NOI and Kenya became linked by their common goal to empower blacks to enact social change through literacy and advanced education.

~snip

Kenya to Hawaii

1959 Malcolm X travels to Middle East and Africa including Kenya. Malcolm X meets with Jomo Kenyatta (recently released from prison following his conviction on leading the Mau Mau Rebellion), Tom Mboya, and may have met Barack Hussein Obama Sr, who was Mboya’s close confident and fellow Luo tribesman both from Lake Victoria.

Due to a program offering Western educational opportunities to outstanding Kenyan students that was organized by nationalist leader Tom Mboya, Obama Sr. was awarded a scholarship in economics, and at the age of 23 (1959) he enrolled at the University of Hawaii. Initial financial supporters of the program included Harry Belafonte, Sidney Poitier, Jackie Robinson, and Elizabeth Mooney Kirk, a literacy advocate who provided most of the financial support for Obama Senior’s early years in the United States. Elizabeth Mooney Kirk worked in Kenya and in concert with Jomo Kenyatta and Tom Mboya. Kirk and Malcolm X, both New Yorkers, would have certainly met in Kenya. Kirk co-authored many books with Frank Charles Laubach, founder of LLI.

Aside: Contrary to Obama’s claims in speeches in January at American University and in Selma last year, the Kennedy family did not provide the funding for a September 1959 airlift of 81 Kenyan students to the United States that included Obama’s father.

(However, as you may already have noted, sourced research on the OBAMA AFRICAN COLONIAL thread shows clearly that Obama Senior was NOT on that first airlift. He had in fact, arrived in Hawaii some months prior to the first airlift landing at Idlewild.)

356 posted on Sunday, October 04, 2009 12:26:54 PM by Fred Nerks

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2278969/posts?q=1&;page=351

Now you have to decide how much of that fable was destroyed when that Hawaii interview came to light...in which the kenyan was quoted saying, in June 1962, that he had not been back to Kenya FOR SEVEN YEARS.

[Fred Nerks]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2278969/posts?page=567#567

AND WHAT FOLLOWS, fyi.

[bgill]

Now you have to decide how much of that fable was destroyed when that Hawaii interview came to light

And how many more lies had to be told to cover it up. It's a labyrinth. Everything is just whisps of smoke. All I know for certain is he's an imposter and my head hurts from trying to figure it all out. One day, he and all those aiding and abetting will be brought to justice.

[bgill]

Ha, as if. Little Barry who may or may not have been birthed through Mama Sarah’s hands isn’t going to give the tribe one thin dime. Dream on, Kenya, it ain’t gonna happen. Hopefully, someone (Roy?) there will see the light and start ratting him out.

[Fred Nerks]

http://www.theobamafile.com/_family/Anna.htm

you may find what you are looking for on this page of THE OBAMA FILE.

[LucyT]

From # 317.

Going back to the disturbing question of The Saboteur’s origins, Trump raises a valid point. It really is surreal how he can spend millions of dollars to prevent having to furnish this document. I mean, seriously, in ANY CASE, shouldn’t the burden of proof be on the person running for the highest position of the most powerful nation in the history of the world?

Dear God in Heaven, it is beyond Orwellian that so many millions of people will hand someone the key to our entire nuclear arsenal and the most formidable military on the planet without even VERIFYING who the hell he is.

That’s a friggin “BEAM ME UP SCOTTY” if I ever heard one and raises the question regarding intelligent life here on this planet, at least in the blue states.

[Fred Nerks]

“The photo at # 285 doesn’t look like Senior when it is enlarged, (imo.)”

The enlargement was made from an image captured from a video - Link:

http://us.cnn.com/video/?/video/world/2009/11/18/vause.china.obama.brother.cnn

[hoosiermama]

Is it possible that 0 had been told he was born in HI, but upon seeing the BC (born in Kenya) and other papers knew that fact was another one of his mother's tall tales?

[Fred Nerks]

Is it possible that 0 had been told he was born in HI, but upon seeing the BC (born in Kenya) and other papers knew that fact was another one of his mother's tall tales?

Possibly. But what I would really like to know is - did they also tell him the same story they told Virginia Goeldner in 1982...that his mother had died in 1970?

...because, if they did, he would assume his mother was the woman on the birth certificate he found...and if that was ANNA (maiden name) then we have a pretty good idea when the MYTH of Stanley Ann Dunham as 'birth-mother' started, don't we?

And what might he have been looking at? We do not know. It might have been the 'Bomford' forgery prepared for the 'fantasy' divorce...OR the bc for the child of ANNA, born in January 1961.

[LucyT]

Excerpted :

HARVARD HAS NEVER MENTIONED THE ILLUSTRIOUS FATHER OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES AS AN ALUMNI. - WONDER WHY?

However, the story goes, he opted for Harvard because of the world-class academic credentials a Crimson degree would bring.

But there is an unresolved part of the story: Did Ann try to follow him to Cambridge? Her friends from Mercer Island were left with that impression.

Susan Botkin, Maxine Box and John W. Hunt all remember Ann showing up in Seattle late that summer with little Barry, as her son was called.

THAT WOULD BE THE SUMMER OF 1961 THEY ARE REFERRING TO, CORRECT?

[snip]

HE DIDN’T LEAVE HAWAII UNTIL JUNE 22, 1962. - THERE’S A YEAR MISSING SOMEWHERE...

Read more at # 328.

Thanks, Fred Nerks.

[LucyT]

IS THIS THE SAME PERSON WHO WAS LISTED IN THE POLK AT THE SEATTLE ADDRESS AS ANNA?

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[little jeremiah]

Good point about vaccination forms. That thought crossed my mind at the time as well. When travelling to some countries, people need or used to need proof of vaccinations, thus “forms”. Not so for just regular vaccinations.

Very good catch.