Posted on 04/11/2011 8:55:58 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
BOSTON - Barack Obama's aunt, Zeituni Onyango, says Donald Trump disrespected her family by questioning the president's birthplace.
Trump quoted Obama's grandmother when she claimed to have witnessed Barack Obama's birth in Kenya, and Onyango says that is not true.....
(Excerpt) Read more at kplctv.com ...
Brief synopsis of newspaper article above
Fall class enrollment - 1959
Worked prior as a clerk in Kenya to save $$
Only thinks he has enough for 2 semesters
or less, due to the high cost of living in
HI. He may be able to get a job and apply
scholarship aid.
Question — did he indeed work or get
scholarship $$ that enabled him to stay
all the time he wanted to or did his
fellow traveler socialist cohorts (East-
West Ctr - Nachmanoffs, etc.) supply the
funds ??
Did he in fact graduate from the UofH ?
Nachmanoff sure holds the key to a huge
stash of valuable info ..and yet, he’s
an untouchable.
Someone hopefully gets to him before he
dies.
Now, before anyone wants to remind me that the Kenyan came to the US as part of the student airlift that landed at Idlewild airport in September 1959 (months AFTER the kenyan showed up in Hawaii btw) they need to read this:
Title: African American Students Foundation (Cora Weiss collection)
Description: The African American Students Foundation (AASF) was founded in 1959. In April 1959, prior to Kenyan independence, trade unionist Tom Mboya visited the U.S. at the invitation of the American Committee on Africa; Mboya talked on many college campuses and was given scholarships from many colleges. The AASF was set up to raise money and bring students from East Africa to the U.S. to use these scholarships. Although based in New York, AASF had a national focus. Baseball star Jackie Robinson and performers Harry Belafonte and Sidney Poitier led the initial fundraising. AASF raised an initial $39,000 and as a result organized the first of several “airlifts” of East African students, mostly from Kenya, to the U.S. in September 1959. In 1960 the Joseph P. Kennedy Foundation gave $100,000 to AASF. As a result in 1960 three planes were chartered bringing 222 students from east and central Africa. The archive includes photographs. Cora Weiss was Executive Director and student adviser. Archive deposited by Cora Weiss.
Housed At: Michigan State University Library, Special Collections
Location: 100 Library, East Lansing, MI 48824, United States
Catalog/Finding Aid: view
Restrictions: The archive may not yet be processed. Contact in advance.
Phone: 517-353-8700
Related Website: http://www.lib.msu.edu/coll/main/spec_col/
http://africanactivist.msu.edu/organization.php?name=African+American+Students+Foundation
CONCLUSION: If you want to see the records, make an appointment with CORA WEISS, who has recently been forced to admit the kenyan was NOT connected to the airlift of students. And Tom Mboya had nothing to do with the kenyan’s arrival in the US...because in his own words, he left Kenya in 1955 WHEN MBOYA WAS STUDYING AT OXFORD.
... He clerked several years in the capital city of Nairobi to save enough for a college education and picked the University of Hawaii when he read in an American magazine about its racial tolerance...
Give me a holler when you get to ANYTHING about the STUDENT AIRLIFTS, will ya?
Looks like the same MO, doesn't it? Not a word about Mercer Island high school until questions were asked - where did she go to school, when did she graduate...not a word about the U of WA until Charlette finds the ANNA OBAMA listing in the Seattle directory, and not a word about the STUDENT AIRLIFT I BET!
If there was a hearing on the merits the transcript evidence could be produced and I expect you would stipulate that if it were authenticated in court then it would prove SADO was a student at U. WA.
In contrast, there is no such evidence shown yet even claimed to prove a different Anna Obama was in WA in Jan 1961. The memories of Toutonghi, which she said she was struggling with even in the newspaper story, would not likely survive cross-examination.
Malcolm X meeting with students from East Africa at a welcoming program for students bought to the United States to study by the African American Students Foundation. Photo courtesy of Cora Weiss Collection: Private collection of Cora and Peter Weiss
“...The memories of Toutonghi, which she said she was struggling with even in the newspaper story, would not likely survive cross-examination.”
Correction. It wasn’t a ‘newspaper story’ it came from Charlette LeFevre, she of:
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Have you read the entire thread? I think you might find the answer to you question there...
I’ve read most of it, and I’ve read a lot of other material. Please spare me the hunt.
“Why’s” can only happen to real people with feelings, motives, plans, goals, fears, etc. If something didn’t actually happen, the actors in the story can’t have real motives, etc.
So, if Stanley Ann did go to college in WA, the only reason I could think of is because she lived in WA.
Moses was born in Egypt to a Hebrew father.
Obama is presumed to be born in Hawaii to a Kenyan father.
If Moses is a Hebrew why is Obama not a Kenyan.
Blood matters to God....not being born on a spot of land.
As to the rest of your comments, there isn't much I can say--I have really exact first hand knowledge. I might be kidding you but at this point, the University has confirmed that the facts are exactly as I told Corsi they were two years ago when this came up for exactly the reason I described.
I also tend to think the difference between August 19 and September 19 no longer makes much difference. It's just that for some unusual reasons, I do know what happened.
From a ‘08 FR thread
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To: Chief Engineer
In your previous post, you wrote:
“I have been researching this since June and on Sept. 30th I discovered a link to an excerpt of yet another Obama book. It revealed that Ann registered for classes at University of Washington in late August of 1961.”
See here:
http://www.christianfaithandreason.com/obama.html
At that link is the article titled “The Myth of Barack Obama’s Early Life” by Michael Patrick Leahy, Summer 2008 online edition August 25, 2008 ( Excerpted from the book What Does Barack Obama Believe? to be published by Harpeth River Press in September 2008)
It has quotes by Ann Dunham’s friends talking about Ann enrolling in extension classes Aug. 1961 at Univ. of Washington.
on page 6:
“Susan Blake, another high school classmate, said that during a brief visit in 1961, Dunham was excited about her husband’s plans to return to Kenya “We all had June Cleaver as our role models, and she was blazing new trails for herself,” said Blake, a former Mercer Island city councilwoman. (37)
Blake recalls that Dunham, who was calling herself Ann Obama at the time, visited her at her house in Mercer Island during the last week of August, 1961.
She left Honolulu just as soon she had clearance from her doctor to travel with her new baby. He was just 3 weeks old. She had sent a postcard that she would be in town, and was staying with a friend of her mother’s.
“The real purpose of this trip, however, may have been different than Stanley Ann Dunham described to her friends. In August, 1961, she enrolled in a University of Washington extension course. Between August, 1961 and March 1962, she enrolled in a total of four extension courses at the University of Washington, earning a total of 20 credits for her work in those courses, no small feat, considering that graduation required 180 credits, and the typical full time student earned 45 credits a year. Neither Box nor Blake has any recollection of Stanley Ann telling them she was enrolling on that same trip in extension courses at the University of Washington. (40)
It was a curious visit, and a curious academic choice. Why would she enroll in extension courses at the University of Washington when she had found herself intellectually stimulated during her previous year of studies at the University of Hawaii?”
on page 8 on online edition of article:
“In March, 1962, Stanley Ann Dunham moved from Honolulu to Seattle, Washington, where she enrolled as a full time student at the University of Washington for the spring quarter, which continued until June, 1962, and got her own apartment. She enrolled in classes and earned 10 credit hours that quarter.
Seattle Times journalist Jonathan Martin reports that some high school classmates recall visiting her and her young son alternately at the Laurelhurst student housing, then at a Capitol Hill apartment during the period that stretched from March 1962 to at least September 1962.” (43)
I don’t have the book in order to cite the numbered sources in the article, perhaps someone else actually has the book or access to it.
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To: Iowan
Having spent months researching on-line to me that was one of the mother lode finds. I believe Ann stayed in WA and took the extension courses while the infant slept, then actually attended classes during Spring 1962.
The excerpt of the book revealed a few things which we hadn’t known before and raised one question in my mind when it was mentioned that Ann was depressed because she couldn’t find a job.
The World’s Fair opened in April 1962 and jobs would have been plentiful. Also we know she managed to complete four courses prior to attending classes and then she was only registered for two courses which she completed in Spring 1962.
I wondered why there were no photos of an infant and this would explain why. There are plenty of photos of the toddler and none of the infant!
Also I researched the 6085 Kalanianaole Hwy address listed in the birth announcement which was published in both “The Honolulu Advertiser” and “The Star - Bulletin”.
The address is not associated with the Davis family (they were living on the leeward side of Kalihi valley close to Pearl Harbor and had been since 1956) the Dunham family lived in “a large house on Kamehameha Ave., then “a modest wooden house on University Ave.” before moving to the 10th floor apartment on Beretania St.” where Madelyn has now lived for 40 years.
Obama Sr. lived at the “Atherton Y.M.C.A.” followed by a small, single story home in St. Louis Heights.”
I then wondered if the address was for a home of one of Sr’s friends but learned that “Arnie was completing his military requirements” and lived in base housing. I still don’t know whose home address was listed for the birth announcement but believe Grandma Dunham knew of a safe address from her job with the escrow department at Bankoh and used it to register not only the birth but to use for the birth announcement.
By the end of 1961 she was actually the manager of the escrow department. (all this information with the exception of Arnie’s address and the Davis address were found in “The Honolulu Advertiser”. Arnie’s address was found in a section on the Obama website while the Davis address was found in an article at U of H) I can provide the links if you want them.
123 posted on 10/28/2008 11:49:37 AM PDT by Chief Engineer
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To: Chief Engineer; LucyT; Fred Nerks
At this link: http://forums.myspace.com/p/4230795/51540213.aspx?fuseaction=forums.viewpost
This person posted this information about the address where Ann and Barack supposedly lived in Honolulu when Barack was born:
” Freedom v Socialism: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 8:55 PM
“I googled 6085 Kalanianaole Hwy on the satellite map. That neighborhood was not built in the late 50s. Maybe the mid to late 70s, when Obama was a teenager.
Also, I searched the Honolulu Advertiser and there was’nt a single story about Obama residing at 6085 Kalanianaole Hwy. This “birth announcement” cannot be verified.”
Has this ben discussed before reqarding this particular address being in existence in 1961??
Also, why was Ann Dunham’s Social Security Number issued from WASHINGTON in 1959/60. I thought Social Security numbers got issued from State of Birth?? I thought she was born in Kansas...
403 posted on 11/02/2008 8:43:13 PM PST by Iowan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2117322/posts?q=1&;page=101
Rest here
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2117322/replies?c=403
That would only prove the Mombasa bc and the usurper's footprint didn't match. It wouldn't prove or disprove anything else and you'd be back as square one. It may or may not prove the Mombasas bc was a true document and you wouldn't be any closer to who the usurper might be. It wouldn't prove if the usurper was Barack Hussein Obama Soetoro or not. It wouldn't prove if he was born in HI, Kenya, or Mars. Same thing with a HI long form. Nothing will prove who this freak is and he knows it. That's the game he's playing and will continue to play.
I agree with that. I don't think you can tell yet where he does come from or where he was born. I don't think there is any consideration that would keep him from publishing evidence he was born in the US if he had it--so I remain convinced he was born offshore.
I doubt that he matches the footprint--my point was that if he does, the argument is over. If he doesn't we are still looking.
If someone had thought to click on the "site members" tab when that was first up, we might know. Unfortunately that appears no longer to be possible.
I do not know that you would.
Fred would want to argue that there is no evidence in the record that the person who was admitted as Stanley Ann was in fact Stanley Ann Dunham.
I think it is pretty likely that the student was in fact Stanley Ann but there are enough loose ends out there to make you wonder.
Use of the address on the student record makes you think there was a connection between the student in attendance and the record.
But on the other hand, Mary's statements make you think that whether or not there was a child present, Anna was in the apartment in early 1961. That provides some separation with Stanley Ann.
So does the possible issue with the data date for the Polk Directory.
If you deposed Mary and she didn't stand up; or if you could establish that the actual data date was late 61 early 62, you would have trouble with an argument that they were not the same person.
And I don't know what records the U is likely to have left with respect to identification of the admitted extension school student. If, as I suspect, the answer is none, the transcript is pretty good evidence. I have seen lots of copies of 1961 transcripts--the original one here looks like all the rest.
The newspaper story posted in comment #988 was written by Shurei Kirozawa and reports on Obama’s arrival in 1959. Kirozawa reports that Obama came as a lone Kenyan with two other foreign students and not part of an airlift. The later airlift is irrelevant.
Kirozawa says of Obama:
“He clerked several years in the capital city of Nairobi to save enough for college education and picked the University of Hawaii when he read in an American magazine about its racial tolerance.”
This reporting of Obama’s three years in Nairobi immediately before leaving for Hawaii is consistent with and thus corroborates numerous other accounts including Kezia’s in the Daily Mail, a time when he fathered two children who are very much in evidence.
Obama’s letters to Mboya are consistent with and corroborate Mboya’s help to Obama in coming to America in 1959.
In the story posted in comment # 998, Obama does NOT say in his OWN WORDS that he left Kenya in 1955. The reporter wrote "seven years" without attribution and could have screwed up his background notes any number of ways.
Here is what reporter John Griffen actually wrote:
“Obama, who has been away from Kenya for seven years, said he plans to go home after finishing at Harvard...”
Obama did NOT say he had been away for seven years. This claim has not been corroborated by any other story, especially not by the Massena School story decades later after Barry became famous and was based on the memories of a school principal at a school Obama Sr. left in 1953.
I trust there will be no basis for future postings claiming that Obama said “in his own words” that he had been away from Kenya for seven years or that he said he left Kenya in 1955.
. . . . Way behind again and never going to catch up, so y'all are on your own with regards to this thread. Everyone is doing a good job; thanks so much. Happy Easter.
This statement is important:
‘She’ (Stanley Ann Dunham) seems to me to have been more like a NANNY who was hired in Hawaii when the child was three years of age.
In other words, She was a BEARD. A substitute for a mother whom they couldn’t identify.
Hasn’t anyone wondered WHERE he was before he showed up in Hawaii at the age of three?
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Why yes, yes I do wonder.
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