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To: phi11yguy19
I made the case the Northern states pushed for secession just as hard as the South

You really don't see a difference between discussing secession and then dropping the idea and issuing a declaration announcing yourself seceded, forming a new national government, building an army and going to war, do you?

I'm still waiting for your response about the ceasefire and when the Hartford Convention should have learned about the Treaty of Ghent.

535 posted on 04/19/2011 4:10:36 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
You really don't see a difference between discussing secession and then dropping the idea and issuing a declaration announcing yourself seceded

Legally? No. Both clearly legal.
If you disagree and feel secession is treason or rebellion, then merely "discussing" or "flirting" with the idea on the record would warrant conspiracy charges, no? I dare you, no, I triple dog dare you to show me a ruling confirming that.

Practically? Yes. In one case, the grievance ceased to exist; in the other, it escalated to the point of suffocating any hope of diplomatic resolution. And as it's legal, there should no action taken than diplomatic, which at least Buchanen was level-headed enough to see.

Keep holding your breath (please!) on Hartford. I'm sure there's no limit to how far off topic you can take us while hoping to find a coherent, legal case for your central argument (whatever that is). Perhaps the oxygen deficiency could spice things up a bit?
536 posted on 04/19/2011 4:33:26 PM PDT by phi11yguy19
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