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To: phi11yguy19
Unfortunately, your boy Lincoln didn't give a rat's turd about emancipating anyone when he waged his war.

And yet there he is, signing the Emancipation Proclamation and pushing for the 13th Amendment.

Nor did he during the war for anyone in the "non-rebellious" areas of the United States when he issued his proclamation.

Sigh. Do we really have to do this one again? Fine. The Emancipation Proclamation was issued under Lincoln's authority as commander in chief and therefore could only apply to those areas in rebellion. As he said many times before, he had no authority to interfere with slavery in areas not in rebellion. For that, a constitutional amendment would be required. Lincoln pushed for one, but the Copperhead Democrats in Congress wouldn't give him the supermajority that a proposed amendment requires. The November, 1864 election would have given the Republicans enough votes to pass such an amendment in the Congress that would convene in March, 1865, but before that could happen a few lame duck Democrats switched sides and joined the Republicans to pass the 13th, sending it to the states.

Seriously, you guys bitch about what a dictator Lincoln was, then you bitch that he should have been more dictatorial.

448 posted on 04/15/2011 12:06:29 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
And yet there he is, signing the Emancipation Proclamation and pushing for the 13th Amendment...AND still trying to colonize the blacks in Panama weeks before his death...ALL of which still has nothing to do with invading florida and south carolina while telling them he wanted peace. It's good for you though, because so long as you keep ignoring history, it's however you want it to be - just like a fairy tale!

Seriously, you guys bitch about what a dictator Lincoln was, then you bitch that he should have been more dictatorial.

Welcome back, captain strawman! So which one of "us guys" said he should've been "more dictatorial"? No matter, at least now we're all discussing DEGREE of dictatorship, so at least there's some progress.

So if you can't respond intelligently to any of our points, just ignore lincoln's racist and didtatorial words and actions, create some fake words FOR us that you can respond to, tell us how wrong our fake words are, then go back to feeling you're well informed again. You win the argument every time (but you lose at life). Win the battle, lose the war.

And strawmen arguments with "b!tch" this and "b!tch" that almost sound "condescending, contradictory, and convoluted". I think you owe your fanboy an apology.
450 posted on 04/15/2011 12:41:07 PM PDT by phi11yguy19
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