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To: central_va; TheBigIf
Does TheBigIf et al. claim Constitutional expertise greater than the "father" James Madison himself? From his papers:

"Should the provisions of the Constitution as here reviewed be found not to secure the Government and rights of the States against usurpations and abuses on the part of the United States, the final resort within the purview of the Constitution lies in an amendment of the Constitution according to a process applicable by the States.

And in the event of a failure of every constitutional resort, and an accumulation of usurpations and abuses, rendering passive obedience and non-resistance a greater evil, than resistance and revolution, there can remain but one resort, the last of all, an appeal from the cancelled obligations of the constitutional compact, to original rights and the law of self-preservation. This is the ultima ratio under all Government whether consolidated, confederated, or a compound of both; and it cannot be doubted that a single member of the Union, in the extremity supposed, but in that only, would have a right, as an extra and ultra constitutional right, to make the appeal."

Or mandatory reading at West Point for nearly two decades in the 1800s says:

"It depends on the state itself to retain or abolish the principle of representation, because it depends on itself whether it will continue a member of the Union. To deny this right would be inconsistent with the principle of which all our political systems are founded, which is, that the people have in all cases, a right to determine how they will be governed....

The secession of a state from the Union depends on the will of the people of such state. The people alone, as we have already seen, hold the power to alter their constitutions. But in any manner by which a secession is to take place, nothing is more certain than that the act should be deliberate, clear, and unequivocal. To withdraw from the Union is a solemn, serious act. Whenever it may appear expedient to the people of a state, it must be manifested in a direct and unequivocal manner."


146 posted on 04/11/2011 8:35:21 PM PDT by phi11yguy19
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To: phi11yguy19

But then again there is nothing in the Constitution to outline such.

So I guess I am a Constitutional expert in that matter.

For you though your treason is not supported by the words of Madison as being that there is nothing inn his words that support yours and the democrats party treason and support of slavery.


149 posted on 04/11/2011 8:40:10 PM PDT by TheBigIf
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