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To: wistful
Yo, Bill, explain how a man born under the British Nationality Act of 1948 can be a Natural born Citizen of the US. what law is that? Answer: THERE IS NONE!! It isn't possible.

Natural Born citizenship DOES NOT mean born in the united states. It means being born under the SOLE JURISDICTION of the United States!!

Yea, two parents that are citizens and born here is SOLE JURISDICTION - no other nation involved is there?

It isn't rocket science or theoretical physics for Heavens sake!! It isn't that hard to get!!!!!! For the love of peat.... People are SO STUPID nowadays!!! It's a simple concept!

7 posted on 03/30/2011 9:25:35 PM PDT by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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16 posted on 03/30/2011 9:39:51 PM PDT by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: Danae
Natural Born citizenship DOES NOT mean born in the united states. It means being born under the SOLE JURISDICTION of the United States!!

Yea, two parents that are citizens and born here is SOLE JURISDICTION - no other nation involved is there?

That's clarity Danae. Keep it up. People are beginning to understand, no thanks to state-run media. No thanks to World Net Daily, which contributed to the misunderstanding, either by trying to address those who they don't think can understand a logical conjunction - AND - or they themselves don't understandm which seems unlikely.

“Born on the soil of citizen parents” - Marshall from Vattel, “...all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens” from Justice Waite, “...within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty” from 14th Amendment author John Bingham.

There is no doubt that Obama is, and has always been ineligible. He is so confident that no one will address the issue as to tell everyone he was born a dual citizen; there is precedence, though none is needed, that a dual citizen does not have "sole allegiance." Obama told us he was a 14th Amendment citizen, because while he was born on our soil, British law made him a British subject at birth, after his father. It is quite a technical and confusing pile of law, and that is what Obama's handlers counted on. After all, he couldn't hide it. "Dreams From My Father" was written (by Ayers, apparently) in the early 90s and published in 95. The planning, concealment of records, school, passport, birth, must have significantly preceeded the election or some trace would appear.

Whether because of white guilt, fear of civil unrest, or because McCain too was ineligible, our legislators and courts have failed us. It is time to fix it. Good for Trump for raising the question. He isn't beholden to party politics or corporate payoffs like Immelt, the bankers, or Google. I do wish Mr. Trump would stick with the known fact that being born of an alien parent is why Obama has never been eligible. That our lawmakers chose to ignore the law doesn't make it moot. If we "agree" to ignore the Constitution just the once, as reparation for our slave owning history, the precedent for setting aside our foundation for a seemingly ethical cause will have been established. There will be reasons to limit hate speach, to protect citizens from the scourge of guns in private hands, for limiting a president's term of office to two terms, and while "Congress shale make no law respecting an establishment of religion<" Sharia, which comes with a religion, will find its way into our judicial system as it already has in England.

39 posted on 03/30/2011 11:09:10 PM PDT by Spaulding
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To: Danae

I’ve concluded that the msm (including O’Reilly and others at Fox) keep up the born-in-Hawaii ruse on purpose. They wouldn’t dare venture into the facts that NBC means that both parents are citizens with “no allegiance to any other soveriegnty”.

BOR is as big a liar about the situation as any other “journalist”.

He also is showing complete disdain for the Constitution too.


44 posted on 03/30/2011 11:36:00 PM PDT by abigailsmybaby ("To understan' the livin', you gotta commune wit' da dead." Minerva)
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To: Danae
BO/BS has spent , by my reckoning, about $2 Million of somebody's money .... probably ours .... to teach us to believe that the word "Native," in English, means exactly the same thing as "Natural."

In other words, BO/BS tells us he was born in Hawaii to an American mother and a Kenyan student who was a British subject, making him as he told us in his thrilling "autobiography," a Dual Citizen. If the tale of the star-crossed lovers' location is true, BO/BS can indeed claim "Native Citizenship." In fact, that's all he has ever claimed. See www.fightthesmears.com, if it's still up. The other players on Team BO/BS are the ones who forge the link between that and "Natural Born Citizenship," as required in this really old document written by white slaveholders like hundreds of years ago and amended .... thank goodness.. to make everyone born here, even someone born to illegal aliens a "Natural Born Citizen." Team BO/BS are really smart people and have done tons of research on this, so you can believe it. Because, it's like really true!

If only you could get that, Danae! It's like really simple. "Native" = "Natural." Just keep repeating that and teach it to the kids. OK?

Native = Natural. Has a ring to it. Danae, just stop and think, when BO/BS reached his majority, he had the choice of becoming a British Citizen, a Kenyan Citizen, an Indonesian Citizen, or an American Citizen. I think it's really special that he chose us.

I have no idea what we did to deserve that.

OBTW, he didn't do anything old fashioned and formal to do that "citizen" thing. He just sorta felt it? Same way he went back to his "African Muslim Name" after it was legally changed to some weird Indonesian moniker? It's OK, really. Relax. Barack? Barry? Obama? Dunham? Soetoro? Soebarka? Whatever! I just can't believe so many old white racist people get bent out of shape over such stupid stuff!

47 posted on 03/31/2011 12:13:56 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (You can't have a Boehner with no balls. Sack the sac-less SOB now!)
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To: Danae

When I was born in 1958, both of my parents were British Subjects.
They were not under the Jurisdiction of the U.S.A., as they had neither the rights nor responsibilities of a Natural Born Citizen or Naturalized Citizen of the U.S.
Hence, there is no way I was eligible to run for POTUS.
Hell, I knew that in high school.
The imbecility of BOR is staggering in this subject.
Btw, my parents only became naturalized in 1991 so they could vote against BJ Clinton.


48 posted on 03/31/2011 12:46:26 AM PDT by gigster
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