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TRUMP: Maybe Obama's Missing Birth Certificate Says He's A Muslim
Business Insider ^ | 03/30/2011 | Glynnis MacNicol

Posted on 03/30/2011 3:58:14 PM PDT by Smokeyblue

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To: ASA Vet

You know I just realized I could never be POTUS.

My father was born in Mexico and was a legal permanent resident when he died in 1981.

My mother also was born in Mexico and naturalized in 2002 before she passed in 2006.

Damn!


61 posted on 03/30/2011 5:04:10 PM PDT by 2dogjoe (Have a Blessed Day)
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To: Smokeyblue
No, even if a 1961 Hawaiian long form birth certificate for Obama did exist (and I strongly doubt that it does), it definitely doesn't say that Obama or his father is a Muslim. There was no field for religious affiliation on those certificates.

Here are the fields on a long form birth certificate from Hawaii issued in 1961:

1.
 a. Child's first name
 b. Middle name
 c. Last name
2.
 Sex
3.
 This birth (single) (twin) (triplet)
4.
 If twin or triplet, was child born (1st) (2nd) (3rd)
5.
 a. Birthdate [ Month ] [ Day ] [ Year ]
 b. Hour
6.
 a. Place of Birth: City, Town, or Rural Location
 b. Island
 c. Name of Hospital or Institution (if not in hospital or institution, give street address)
 d. Is Place of Birth Inside City or Town Limits? If no, give judicial district
7.
 a. Usual resident of Mother: City, Town, or Rural Location
 b. Island
 c. County and State or Foreign Country
 d. Street Address
 e. Is Residence Inside City or Town Limits? If no, give judicial district
 f. Mother's Mail Address
 g. Is Resident on a Farm or Plantation?
8. Full name of Father
9. Race of Father
10. Age of Father
11. Birthplace (Island, State or Foreign Country)
12.
 a. Usual Occupation
 b. Kind of Business or Industry
13. Full Maiden Name of Mother
14. Race of Mother
15. Age of Mother
16. Birthplace (Island, State, or Foreign Country)
17.
 a. Type of Occupation Outside Home During Pregnancy
 b. Date Last Worked
18.
 a. Signature of Parent or Other Informant
 b. Date of Signature
19.
 a. Signature of Attendant
 b. Date of Signature
20. Date Accepted by Local Reg
21. Signature of Local Registrar
22. Date Accepted by Reg General
23. Evidence for Delayed Filing or Alteration

Mr. Trump is doing a fine job in general on Obama's natural born citizenship issues and Obama's lack of eligibility to serve in the Oval Office, but Mr. Trump missed on this swing.

62 posted on 03/30/2011 5:04:38 PM PDT by snowsislander
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To: x
People didn't fly around the world as easily then as they do now.

Obama claims to have visited both Japan and Australia as a small child, and he definitely lived in Indonesia and in Hawaii. He averaged at least an international trip every two years. By any standard, that was a great deal of jet travel for a small child born in 1961.

63 posted on 03/30/2011 5:10:33 PM PDT by snowsislander
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To: Smokeyblue

For a brief while, the local paper would automatically publish births registered with the county. That stopped. For a while they were publishing divorces! That stopped even quicker. Who knows what was happening in 1961. But I’m glad the Donald is going after this.


64 posted on 03/30/2011 5:18:56 PM PDT by Excellence (Buy Progresso, take off the label, write "not halal," mail to Campbell's soup company.)
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To: Smokeyblue
Will the Supreme Court and the lower courts suffer the most when it comes to losing respect among the American people if and when Obama's long form birth certificate is finally released?

If we get lucky and somehow finally get to see Obama's Hawaii long form birth certificate in the near future---say, before the Nov. 2012 presidential election---and it shows that Obama is a liar and a fraud as many of us think he is, then I believe that the Supreme Court and the lower courts will end up being the biggest losers in the eyes of the American people when it comes to this Obama long form birth certificate mess.

I believe that the Supreme Court and the lower courts will lose tremendous respect among the American people because of the way the courts frustrated and stonewalled persons who begged the courts over and over to release Obama's Hawaii long form birth certificate.

The courts used over and over an obscure legal term of "lack of standing" that many Americans had never heard of to uphold a court's ruling that Obama's long form birth certificate was off limits to the American people.

Yes, if Obama's long form birth certificate is released in the near future and we find out that Obama is really the liar and fraud that many of us believe he is, then the disrespect, scorn, and almost hatred that the American people will shower upon the Supreme Court and the lower courts will be tremendous.

65 posted on 03/30/2011 5:19:43 PM PDT by john mirse
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To: 2dogjoe
I assume you were either born here or born after your mother naturalized? If so you're a US Citizen and there's nothing to stop you from being a Governor, Rep, or Sen.

Sorry about not having a shot at the top spot.

I have a similar situation in my family.

My eldest son was born in Bangkok. He was a US Citizen at birth derived from me being his father. I did have to register his birth with the US Consul in Bangkok. They issued him a US Passport. He is NOT a Natural Born Citizen

My 2nd Son was born in the US. He is a US Citizen at birth though both place of birth and derivative from me. He in NOT a Natural Born Citizen however because his mother was a Thai Citizen at the time of his birth.

My 3rd son was born in the US and by the time he was born my wife had naturalized. Of the three sons, he is the only one who is a Natural Born Citizen.

66 posted on 03/30/2011 5:20:27 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: Menehune56
The Donald doesn't actually believe Obama was born in Hawaii or he isn't up to speed yet.

Or more likely he is up to speed, and knows that if a real bc shows up and has Barack Hussein Obama as Barry's father that proves the the US Resident is NOT a Natural Born Citizen.

67 posted on 03/30/2011 5:25:47 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: snowsislander
Obama claims to have visited both Japan and Australia as a small child, and he definitely lived in Indonesia and in Hawaii.

It wouldn't have been so very odd for a Hawaiian to get to Japan or an Indonesian to visit Australia in those days, just as it wasn't unheard of for New Yorkers to vist Europe.

Kenya was pretty far off for Americans, whether you lived on the East or the West Coast.

68 posted on 03/30/2011 5:27:05 PM PDT by x
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To: Smokeyblue; LucyT; warsaw44; ColdOne; Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!; GQuagmire; wintertime; ...

Trump Trampling tThe Tramp Ping..................


69 posted on 03/30/2011 5:31:54 PM PDT by melancholy (Papa Alinsky, Enslavement Specialist)
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To: ASA Vet
Or more likely he is up to speed, and knows that if a real bc shows up and has Barack Hussein Obama as Barry's father that proves the the US Resident is NOT a Natural Born Citizen.

So the Donald's plan is to trick Obama into releasing information that is common knowledge, and was published in a book?

70 posted on 03/30/2011 5:35:16 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: melancholy

I think Zero’s hiding the fact that he wasn’t born in the USA! Not eligible!!!


71 posted on 03/30/2011 5:37:47 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Smokeyblue

I have to admit, I still don’t know what to make of this guy but I am sure as hell on board for this ride! I don’t care about what else he does but as far as entertainment goes he can’t be topped.

Trump may just save our republic as a modern day Hank Rearden.


72 posted on 03/30/2011 5:39:37 PM PDT by JerseyDvl (Sometimes the road less traveled.... is less traveled for a reason.)
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To: Mr. K
I will VOTE FOR HIM if he succeeds in bringing Obama down

I don't like a lot of his policy positions, but taking down the 0-Boy would earn a vote from me, too.

73 posted on 03/30/2011 5:40:14 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Imagine.... a world without islam.)
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To: Zuben Elgenubi
Whenever they think they've “answered” his attack, he has two or three more for them! I think he released his hospital COLB first on purpose so they could scream “that's not a birth certificate!” and then he pulls the real one out of his hat! Do the jourbalists realize how damaging to Mr. Obama that was? And it's going to reverberate for months!!
74 posted on 03/30/2011 5:44:09 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet ("You cannot invade the US There would be a rifle behind each blade of grass." Yamamoto)
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To: x
ITO > NBO = 10900 MILES
ITO > PER = 6870 MILES

JFK > NBO = 7350 MILES

75 posted on 03/30/2011 5:44:45 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: DrC
Statements like these from Trump severely undercut his credibility and that does NOT help the cause!

As if the average American news consumer is going to have any idea that there's no field for religion on an original long form Hawaiian bc.

Trump knows what he's doing. He's upping the ante, and calling Obama out into the street. The longer Obama delays, the more Trump is going to throw out these sorts of questions to stimulate further questions and doubts about Obama's eligibility.

I think he's brilliant, and is doing more to help the cause than practically anyone has, since this whole controversy erupted.

76 posted on 03/30/2011 5:47:22 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Smokeyblue

ping


77 posted on 03/30/2011 5:48:52 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: Tex-Con-Man
His book, the COLB, and the newspaper announcements aren't legal official government documents so aren't proof of anything.

Maybe we should just accept them? They indicate he's NOT a Natural Born Citizen.

78 posted on 03/30/2011 5:51:23 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: ASA Vet
Would have been IDL or LGA or EWR, not JFK in those days.

So tell me, did they have direct flights from New York or Honolulu or Perth to Kenya in those days? Or even from Honolulu to Perth?

It would have been quite a trip in 1961. Not impossible, but harder than it is today.

79 posted on 03/30/2011 6:02:36 PM PDT by x
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To: tirednvirginia

I think Trump won the debate with O.

Apparently O believes everything that’s printed in a newspaper. If the birth announcements are in the paper it means islamabama was born in Hawaii. This after O constantly complains about the untruths on other networks and the NYTimes.


80 posted on 03/30/2011 6:04:59 PM PDT by Terry Mross (Those Who Worship Him will all bow down and say "Yes, we can!")
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